Oliver Stone on Putin Interview You Have lot of Flattery Very Little Skepticism
In the second hour of “The Putin Interviews,” the filmmaker Oliver Stone invites Vladimir V. Putin on a movie date. Mr. Stone asks the Russian president if he’s ever seen “Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb.” Mr. Putin says he hasn’t, so Mr. Stone gets him to watch the 1964 nuclear-war satire in a conference room: a little Nyetflix-and-chill.
Mr. Stone is animated, laughing and dropping bits of trivia. Mr. Putin sits still, smiling thinly. If you’ve ever seen a movie with your cineaste friend who really needs you to love it as much as he does, you know this dynamic.
Mr. Putin offers a few unenthusiastic words of praise. But what is he really feeling? Bemusement? Discomfort? Contempt? Does he see Mr. Stone as a journalist, an ally or a fool?
I couldn’t say. But the awkward interlude captures the — to borrow a “Strangelove” word — essence of “The Putin Interviews,” and what the two men seem to want from the production.
The special, airing over four nights in hourlong segments, starting Monday, is timely because of the investigation into Russian meddling in the 2016 election. But Mr. Stone has a longer game in mind. He may not see a hero in Mr. Putin, but he uses his perspective to challenge neoconservative American triumphalism about the Cold War and its aftermath. (As Donald J. Trump says in a line heard early on, “You think our country’s so innocent?”)
Mr. Putin, meanwhile, plays the tough-but-fair leader, beset by the calumny of hypocritical Westerners. The cult of Putin is very much about physicality, and there’s plenty on display: He suits up for a hockey scrimmage, does strength-training workouts, talks martial arts. In the interviews, Mr. Putin has the casual charm of an executive who knows that he could always press a button and release the hounds.
The special is solicitous, even obsequious, but sometimes revealing anyway. A firm interview isn’t automatically effective, as we saw at the premiere of Megyn Kelly’s NBC newsmagazine last Sunday. Ms. Kelly peppered Mr. Putin with the kind of direct, simple questions about whether Russia fiddled with the election that a guilty or innocent man would deny exactly the same way.
Mr. Stone’s view from the left is a break from the usual news media vantages on Russia, either tough-talk centrism or the defenses of Putin enablers-come-lately in the conservative media. But it is embarrassingly generous.
Mr. Stone gives Mr. Putin a platform for flattering versions of his government’s aggression in Ukraine; treatment of opposition parties; and the sheltering of Edward J. Snowden, the National Security Agency whistle-blower. (Mr. Stone directed a 2016 biopic on him.)
Mr. Stone, the good cop, coaxes his subject into some unguarded remarks. He compliments Mr. Putin’s calm, asking, “Do you ever have a bad day?” The answer: “I’m not a woman, so I don’t have bad days.”
Later, discussing the persecution of gay people in Russia — Mr. Putin denies there is any — Mr. Stone asks whether a gay sailor could shower with a straight one. “I prefer not to go to the shower with him,” Mr. Putin says. “Why provoke him?” He laughs. Then he notes that he is an expert in judo.
The interviews took place between July 2015 and February 2017, and the first half, which Showtime provided for review, focuses on events before the election. It seems driven, like everything in 2015 and 2016, by the assumption that the “hawk” Hillary Clinton would become the next president.
It will be interesting to see if the election results affect the later interviews. There’s a hint at the end of the second hour.
In February 2016, Mr. Stone brings up the American primaries, repeatedly asking Mr. Putin his opinion of Bernie Sanders, whom Mr. Stone supported. He quips that Mr. Putin could influence the vote by endorsing a candidate, whose poll numbers would then drop. “We never interfere in the domestic affairs of other countries,” Mr. Putin says.
The episode ends, “To be continued.” “The Putin Interviews” is neither the last or best word on Russia, but it makes a point. Never assume that history is over.
The Putin Interviews
Monday through Thursday on Showtime
A version of this review appeared in print on The New York Times.
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