Showing posts with label KKK. Show all posts
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December 10, 2018

Comings and Goings of The KKK Can Draw The Picture of Today's White Supremacy





 As long as the United States has existed, there's been some version of white supremacy. But over the centuries, the way white supremacy manifests has changed with the times. This includes multiple iterations of the infamous Ku Klux Klan. 
According to the sociologist Kathleen Blee, the Klan first surfaced in large numbers in the 1860s in the aftermath of the Civil War, then again in the 1920s, and yet again during the civil rights era.
Blee is a professor and dean at the University of Pittsburgh, and the author of Inside Organized Racism: Women in the Hate Movement, as well as Understanding Racist Activism: Theory, Methods and Research. She says the anonymity allowed by the internet makes it difficult to track just how much white supremacist activity we're seeing today.
But despite this difficulty, she and other experts say there's been an indisputable uptick in hate crimes — and an overall rise in white supremacist violence: Earlier this fall, a gunman shot and killed 11 worshipers at a Pittsburgh synagogue. In 2017, a clash with protesters at the Unite The Right rally in Charlottesville, Va., left one woman dead. In 2015, the shooting at the Mother Emanuel AME church in Charleston, S.C., killed nine black churchgoers. And in 2012, a rampage at the Sikh Temple of Wisconsin in Oak Creek, Wisc., killed six people.
As we consider this spate of racist attacks, we thought it'd be helpful to talk to Blee about the ebbs and flows of white supremacy in the United States — and what, exactly, those past waves say about today's political climate.
Our conversation has been condensed and edited for clarity.

First, can we talk about the various phases of white supremacy in the U.S. throughout history — and what caused those ebbs and flows?
The 20th to 21st century Klan actually formed after the Civil War, during the Reconstruction period. Then it was entirely contained within the South, mostly in the rural South. It [was] all men. There were violent attacks on people who were engaged, or [wanted] to be engaged, in the Reconstruction state, [including] freed blacks, southern reconstructionists, politicians and northerners who move to the South. That collapses for a variety of reasons in the 1870s.
Then, the Klan is reborn in the teens, but becomes really big in the early 1920s. And that is the second Klan. That is probably the biggest organized outburst of white supremacy in American history, encompassing millions of members or more. ... And that's not in the South, [it's] primarily in the North. It's not marginal. It runs people for office. It has a middle class base. They have an electoral campaign. They are very active in the communities. And they have women's Klans, who are very active and very effective in some of the communities. That dissolves into mostly scandals around the late '20s.
Then there's some fascist activity around the wars — pro-German, some Nazi activity in the United States — not sizable, but obviously extremely troubling.
The Klan and white supremacy reemerge in a bigger and more organized way around the desegregation and civil rights movement — again, mostly in the South, and back to that Southern model: vicious, violent, defensive, Jim Crow and white rights in the South.
And then it kind of ebbs. After a while, it kind of comes back again in the late '80s and the early 21st Century as another era. And then there's kind of a network of white supremacism that encompasses the Klan, which is more peripheral by this time. Also Neo-Nazi influence is coming as white power skinheads, racist music, and also neo-Nazi groups. The Klans tend to be super nationalist, but these neo-Nazi groups have a big international agenda.
Then the last wave is where we are now, which is the Internet appears. The movement has been in every other era as movement of people in physical space like in meetings, rallies, protests and demonstrations and so forth. It becomes primarily a virtual world, and as you can see, has its own consequences — many consequences. It's much harder to track. And then there are these blurred lines between all these various groups that get jumbled together as the alt-right and people who come from the more traditional neo-Nazi world. We're in a very different world now.
That's a long history. You mentioned that, for a variety of reasons, the Klan in the Reconstruction era collapsed. What are some of the factors that contributed to that?
I would say two things that mostly contributed to that ebb over time.
One is the white supremacist world, writ large, is very prone to very serious infighting. Internal schisms are quite profound in collapsing white supremacists, even as an entire movement, over time.
What's that infighting look like? How racist to be?
No, no. It's almost always power and money. So, for example, the '20s Klan — I say "Klan" but in every era there were multiple Klans, they all have different names, they all have different leaders — they are trying to extract money from their groups, and they are all fighting about money .... and then over power, and who controls the power, because white supremacy groups don't elect their leaders right away. To be a leader just means to grab power and control. So there's a lot of contention in these groups of control.
It's not ideas. Ideas aren't that central. They have these certain key ideas that they promulgated — race and anti-Semitic ideas — but the fine points of ideological discussion don't really occur that much in white supremacist groups, nor do they get people that agitated. It's not like in other kinds of groups, where people might have various versions of ideas, versions of ideologies. [The Klan] just have kind of core beliefs. But they do tend to fight over ideas for money, power and access to the media.
So that's the fighting. The other thing is, in different waves of history, there are prosecutions, either by the police or civil prosecutions that collapse groups and movements. Sometimes, there's kind of a blind eye to white supremacist organizing, but at other times there is really successful either civil or state prosecutions of these groups that do debilitate them.
How does the longevity of white supremacy or these [hate] groups coincide with who has political power?
It's very hard to create a generalization here. Certain groups, like the Klan, tend to rise and fall based on the threats to who is in power. The 1870s Klan [was] based on the Southern racial state formed during slavery being threatened by Reconstruction. In the 1920s, the idea was that political power [was] being threatened by this wave of immigrants. The 1920s Klan [was] very anti-Catholic, as well as racist and anti-Semitic. Part of this anti-Catholicism [was] based on the idea that Catholics were going to start controlling politics as well as the police.
There's some really good analysis by some sociologists that showed that the Klan appeared in counties where there was the least racist enforcement of the law. Because in counties where the sheriff and the county government was enforcing racist laws, there was no need for the Klan.
How does this apply to this more recent wave of white supremacy?
Right now, we have an extremely heterogeneous group that we might call white supremacists. So some of them, probably the smallest group, are nationalistic. And probably the larger group are not particularly nationalistic. This is why it's hard to make generalizations. It's not the case that nationalist fervor just finds itself in the white supremacist movement. The person accused of the shooting in Pittsburgh is an example. If you look at [his] writings, they're not nationalistic, they're in fact anti-nationalistic. And that's pretty common with white supremacy today — some of them have this sense that their mission is this pan-Aryan mission. They're fighting global threats to whites and creating a white international defense. So that's not a nationalist project, that's an internationalist project.
And the other reason is there's this idea among white supremacists in the United States that the national government is ZOG — Zionist Occupation Government — and that's a shorthand way of saying that the national government is secretly controlled by an invisible Jewish cabal. So some of them will be amenable to very local government ... they'll embrace, and work with, and even try to seize control of the government at the county level. But generally, national politics are quite anametha for those two general reasons.
In the 1920s, synagogues were targeted by the KKK. Can you run through other examples of violence like this?
People will say the '20s Klan was not as violent as other Klans. But that's really because its violence took a different form. So there, the threat that the Klan manufactured was the threat of being swapped — all the positions of society being taken by the others — so immigrants, Catholics, Jews and so forth. So the violence was things like, for example, I studied deeply the state of Indiana where the Klan was very strong — pushing Catholics school teachers out of their jobs in public schools and getting them fired, running Jewish merchants out of town, creating boycott campaigns, whispering campaigns about somebody's business that would cause it to collapse. So it's a different kind of violence but it's really targeted as expelling from the communities those who are different than the white, native-born Protestants who were the members of the Klan. So it takes different forms in different times. It's not always the violence that we think about now, like shootings.
When did we start seeing the violence that we see today?
Well, the violence that we see today is not that dissimilar from the violence of the Klan in the '50s and '60s, where there was, kind of, the violence of terrorism. So there's two kinds of violence in white supremacy. There's the "go out and beat up people on the street" violence — that's kind of the skinhead violence. And then there's the sort of strategic violence. You know, the violence that's really meant to send a message to a big audience, so that the message is dispersed and the victims are way beyond the people who are actually injured.
You see that in the '50s, '60s in the South, and you see it now.
I was wondering if we could kind of talk a little bit about the language we use when we talk about mass killings that are related to race, religion or ethnicity — especially about the second type of violence, "strategic violence," that you describe. I've seen people use the phrase "domestic terrorism." What do you make of that phrase?
Terrorism means violence that's committed to further a political or ideological or social goal. By that definition, almost all white supremacist violence is domestic terrorism, because it's trying to send a message, right? Then there's that political issue about what should be legally considered domestic terrorism, and what should be considered terrorism. And that's just an argument of politics, that's not really an argument about definitions right now.
How these things get coded by states and federal governments is quite variable depending on who's defining categories. But from the researcher point of view, these are terrorist acts because they are meant to send a message. That is the definition of terrorism. So it's not just, you don't bomb a synagogue or shoot people in a black church just because you're trying to send a message to those victims or even to those victims and their immediate family. It's meant to be a much broader message, and really that's the definition of terrorism.
I think what we don't want is for all acts of white supremacist violence to be thought of as just the product of somebody who has a troubled psyche. Because that just leaves out the whole picture of why they focus on certain social groups for one thing. [And] why they take this kind of mass horrific feature ... so I think to really understand the tie between white supremacism and the acts of violence that come out of white supremacism, it's important to think about that bigger message that was intended to be sent.
What are the most effective strategies to combat these ideas of white supremacy, or this violence?
I'd say the most effective strategy is to educate people about it, because it really thrives on being hidden and appearing to be something other than it is. I mean, millions of white supremacist groups have often targeted young people, and they do so often in a way that's not clear to the young person that these are white supremacists, they appear to be just your friends and your new social life, like people on the edges who seem exciting. ... And so helping people understand how white supremacists operate in high schools, and the military, and all kinds of sectors of society gives people the resources the understanding to not be pulled into those kinds of worlds.
Twenty years, or even 10 years ago, I would have said it's really effective to sue these groups and bring them down financially, which was what the Southern Poverty Law Center was doing.
[Now,] they don't have property; they operate in a virtual space. So the strategies of combating racial extremism have to change with the changing nature of it.

July 19, 2018

Lets Laugh! Germany's Far Right Party (KKK) Complaints They Don't Let Them Participate At Germany's Pride


These guys born in outer space and transplanted thru Solar hiccups from the Planet Zynga say Germany's Government, gays should let them be part of these event because of gays preaching inclusion. I think a three-year-old child could explain it to these young adults. What is in the water in Germany and in the Bible belt of the U.S. that makes certain young adults go Trumpie? 🦊Adam
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 The youth wing of Germany’s anti-establishment far-right party has complained that the organizers of Berlin Pride blocked it from participating in the LGBT community’s biggest annual celebration.
The Alternative for Germany (AfD) party entered the country's parliament last year with the third largest share of the vote. Its nationalist rhetoric has outraged sections of the German public and drawn criticism from other parties for drafting unpassable legislation to appear like "victims" to their anti-establishment base.
The Junge Alternative has served as the party’s youth wing since 2013 and recently made headlines when the AfD leader Alexander Gauland gave a speech to Junge Alternative activists, in which he said Adolf Hitler was mere “bird shit,” in more than a millennium of otherwise successful German history.
The youth wing is now complaining about the decision to deny it a stall at Berlin’s marquee Pride festivities at the end of July, the Berliner Zeitung newspaper reported.
In a Facebook post, David Eckert, the head of the Berlin chapter of Junge Alternative decried the fact his group was "not welcome" at Berlin’s Christopher Street Day celebrations on July 28, according to a translation by The Local news site.
Eckert, 26, posted what he said was an email exchange between him and the event organizers who turned his request down, telling him that the parade needed a “climate of acceptance,” which included accepting refugees, and besides, his application was too late in the year.
BY      Newsweek
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 Revelers take part in the annual Gay Pride parade, also called Christopher Street Day parade (CSD), in Berlin, on July 22, 2017. The youth wing of Germany’s far-right party has complained the organizers of Berlin Pride blocked it from participating in the LGBT community’s biggest annual celebration. FABRIZIO BENSCH/REUTERS

August 24, 2017

Catholic Priest Comes Out as KKK for 40 Years




 This is not how the majority of KKK members look like today and the story of this priest confirms that.  In the south, any white could be hiding for fear someone is going to take their whiteness away. No, actually is deeper than that and it usually starts as a kid and an infusion of wrong information, that some races like horses are better than others. The Trump's sons have been quoted of saying that much.  What they don't take into account is that humans are not like horses. We don't have 4 legs and sleep on them. Our brains are very intricate computers that allow us to remember and built on knowledge enough to be able to make machines to take us out of the Earth into space. No matter what color or nationality. You have great inventions and famous scientists that are black just like you have many whites that some call trailer park trash. No, they are not trash but they give themselves that name because they compare each other's life with others that are better off. Again it all starts when we are born and to what family and what country. It's a matter of luck rather than genes. 



A Catholic priest is temporarily stepping away from public ministry after writing in an op-ed that he was a member of the Ku Klux Klan decades ago. 
The Catholic Diocese of Arlington in Virginia said the Rev. William Aitcheson volunteered to take a leave and didn't elaborate on the length of time.
Images of violence in Charlottesville brought back memories of a dark time in his life, one he wishes he could forget but is unable to, Aitcheson wrote this week in The Arlington Catholic Herald in a piece titled "Moving from hate to love with God's grace."
    "While 40 years have passed, I must say this: I'm sorry. To anyone who has been subjected to racism or bigotry, I am sorry. I have no excuse, but I hope you will forgive me," he wrote. 
    "My actions were despicable. When I think back on burning crosses, a threatening letter, and so on, I feel as though I am speaking of somebody else. It's hard to believe that was me." 
    Aitcheson, 62, was ordained in 1988 after attending seminary at the North American College in Rome. He spent his early years as a priest in Nevada before becoming a permanent priest of the Diocese of Arlington in 1998.
    There have been no accusations of racism or bigotry against Aitcheson during his time in the diocese, it said in a statement.
    In his editorial, Aitcheson credits his faith as helping him overcome the hatred he felt as a young man. 
    "When I left my former life, I did a lot of soul-searching. God humbled me because I needed to be humbled," he wrote.
    "The images from Charlottesville are embarrassing. They embarrass us as a country, but for those who have repented from a damaging and destructive past, the images should bring us to our knees in prayer. Racists have polluted minds, twisted by an ideology that reinforces the false belief that they are superior to others." 
    Aitcheson's article intended to tell his story of transformation, the diocese said.
    "While Fr. Aitcheson's past with the Ku Klux Klan is sad and deeply troubling, I pray that in our current political and social climate his message will reach those who support hate and division, and inspire them to a conversion of heart," Arlington Diocese Bishop Michael F. Burbidge said in the statement. 
    CNN  

    August 22, 2017

    Heather Heyer Has More Than One Killer but Mom Only Have Her Love

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    Surrounded by supporters, Kim and Susan Bro, left, became emotional on Saturday as he visited the site where Heather Heyer died exactly one week ago after a car plowed through a group of people on 4th Street SE. This was the couple’s first visit to the site. Photo/Andrew Shurtleff/The Daily Progress

    “My hope is that people who see this or attend this know that the city and the people of Charlottesville will not be victim to hate again and we will not accept people that come in and bring their hatred into a city of love and diversity and art and music,” Kelsey Ripa, one of the organizers of the event.
    Alex Benshoff, another organizer of the event, said he hopes they can help people feel like it’s like any other day in Charlottesville with the peace gathering while still respecting the victims of last week’s events.
    “It should be just a normal day getting out there, showing the world while we're still in the world's eye that this is what Charlottesville is all about,” Benshoff said. “It's all about people getting together on the Downtown Mall, local business, music, and poetry and art and culture, you know?”
    Priscilla and Chris Sonne, Nelson County residents, came out to the peace gathering because they wanted to show others that hanging out on the Downtown Mall and enjoying the company of others is closer to what defines the area than what happened Aug. 12.
    “We felt like coming to this as just sort of a step toward saying, ‘Hey, this is more of who we are,’” Chris Sonne said. “This is a loving community and accepting community and we just wanted to be part of that as part of our own healing process for having seen what happened last weekend.
    City police quickly arrested the driver of the car, 20-year-old James Alex Fields, Jr., of Maumee, Ohio. He has been charged with second-degree murder in Heyer’s death and faces five counts of malicious wounding, three counts of aggravated malicious wounding and one count of hit-and-run.

    Later that day, two Virginia State Police officers who had assisted in the law enforcement response died in a helicopter crash in Albemarle County. Jay Cullen of Midlothian and Berke Bates of Quinton died at the scene. This brought the death toll to three people on that day in which the people full of hate towards equality and love for their whiteness thought they were in another country and felt free to put back the hood or just come out on their polo shirts and kick and beat anybody on the opposite side of the fence...  [adamfoxie]



    Michael Bragg is a reporter for The Daily Progress. Contact him at (434) 978-7265, mbragg@dailyprogress.com or @braggmichaelc on Twitter.

    August 16, 2017

    Dillon Hopper (Sgt.USM) Self Appointed Commander of UltraRight Group of James Fields,Killer (alleged)




    The leader of the neo-Nazi group that James Fields marched with in Charlottesville, Virginia, on Saturday before allegedly killing a protester with his car served in the US marine corps until earlier this year.

    Dillon Hopper, the self-styled “commander” of Vanguard America, is a recently retired marine staff sergeant and veteran of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Members of his white supremacist group marched in Virginia last weekend.

    Hopper, 29, has been using his former name, Dillon Irizarry, when appearing in public for Vanguard America. But he officially changed his name to Dillon Ulysses Hopper in November 2006, according to court records in his native New Mexico.

    Hopper’s active duty with the marines ended in January this year, according to a Department of Defense record. He has lived in California and Ohio since returning to the US. Hopper’s full service record could not immediately be obtained. His Facebook avatar is currently a cartoon image of Donald Trump building a wall.

    Hopper and Vanguard America did not respond to messages seeking comment. Hopper’s identity was first reported by Splinter.

    Fields, a 20-year-old military bootcamp dropout from Maumee, Ohio, has been charged with crimes including murder after allegedly driving his Dodge Challenger into a crowd of people in Charlottesville who were demonstrating against the far-right. The crash killed 32-year-old Heather Heyer and injured about 20 others.

    Fields had been photographed standing among members of Vanguard America earlier in the day. He was pictured holding a shield bearing the group’s logo and was wearing the same distinctive outfit – white polo shirt and khakis – as many Vanguard members. The group has said, however, that Fields is not a member.

    Vanguard America is only about a year old. It is one of a handful of new white supremacist organizations that are attempting to radicalize young white men across the country. Its manifesto is racist and its website URL references the Nazi slogan “blood and soil”. The group bars people who are not of white European heritage.

    Hopper was promoted to staff sergeant by the marines in October last year, according to a local news report, and had been due to “train, teach and mentor” potential marine officers. The article said Hopper had joined the military shortly after graduating from high school in Roswell, New Mexico, in 2005.

    In a speech to fellow Nazis in Pikeville, Kentucky, earlier this year, Hopper said that since taking over the leadership of American Vanguard he had tried to strengthen the group with lessons learned from his time in the military.

    “I’ve kind of tooken [sic] that experience and scrubbed the Vanguard pretty good with it,” Hopper said, “and I’m getting a pretty good product.”




    Dillon Hopper speaking in Pikeville, Kentucky.

    Dillon Hopper speaking in Pikeville, Kentucky. The forgotten mistreated white men.  They were never poor enough for food stamps and they have a grudge now? Or They were on their iPhone when the teacher was giving history lessons? They never learn about the statues. Who put them there? Why? and why slavery is always been a shame chapter for this country. 
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    In an interview with the Guardian in May, a Vanguard America organizer from Texas, who would identify himself only as a “vice commander” named Thomas, said that a “large percentage” of Vanguard’s members are college-aged, and that most are in their early twenties. Members must be aged between 18 and 45.
    Like Identity Evropa, a similar white nationalist group, Vanguard America seeks to recruit clean-cut, more professional white men, rebranding racist organizing in a preppier image. Visible neck and hand tattoos, for instance, are discouraged, and one organizer said that obese men would be disqualified from joining.
    “We also uphold standards of dress and grooming and physical fitness because our ideology is one of strength and purity and self-improvement,” he said.
    Thomas would not provide any details about the group’s process for vetting members, other than to say that it included an interview. A questionnaire once used by the group for screening, which was obtained by the Guardian, asked for details of applicants’ professions, beliefs and criminal histories. It asked how often they consumed tobacco or alcohol and “how long you’ve been ‘red pilled’,” a phrase used on the far-right to mean aware of supposed difficult truths. 
    Vanguard America has attracted attention by putting up racist posters on college campuses in areas such as Maryland, Washington DC and Texas.
    In May, a 23-year-old black college student was stabbed to death by a white man on the University of Maryland’s campus. Richard Collins III, was about to graduate, and had just been commissioned as a second lieutenant in the US army.
    The alleged killer had been part of a Facebook group named “Alt-Reich”, authorities said. The Vanguard America spokesman objected to links between made between Collins’s stabbing and the white nationalist posters that had appeared on campus.
    “There are murders of all ideologies,” he said, going on to say: “We don’t promote this kind of action.” 

     and 

    A Red President for A White States of America-Also} FBI Looking For Trump's Opponents' Names

      




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    Trump defends his comments on hate groups: 'They have been condemned'
    Two days ago, President Trump defended his response to the violence in Charlottesville where white nationalists and counterprotesters fought. (Photo: Ricky Carioti/The Washington Post)
    With Breanne Deppisch and Joanie Greve
    THE BIG IDEA: Donald Trump often behaves as if he’s first and foremost the president of the states and the people who voted for him.
    That’s at odds with the American tradition, and it’s problematic as a governing philosophy — especially in a moment of crisis. Trump’s initially tone-deaf response to Charlottesville underscores why.
    Animated by grievance and congenitally disinclined to extend olive branches, Trump lashes out at his “enemies” — his 2020 reelection campaign even used that word in a commercial released on Sunday — while remaining reticent to explicitly call out his fans — no matter how odious, extreme or violent.
    Channeling his inner-Richard Nixon, who kept an enemies list of his own, candidate Trump often claimed to speak for “a silent majority.” After failing to win the popular vote, President Trump has instead governed on behalf of an increasingly vocal but diminishing minority.
    The president has held campaign-style rallies in places like West Virginia, Kentucky and Tennessee. Indeed, almost all his political travel has been to places he carried last November. He keeps stacks of 2016 electoral maps to hand out to people visiting the Oval Office so he can point out the sea of red. He speaks often about his “base,” preferring to preach to the choir rather than evangelize for his policies. “The Trump base is far bigger & stronger than ever before,” Trump wrote on Twitter last week. 
    -- Apparently the president sees “the Trump base” as distinct from the GOP base: “Trump's job approval rating in Gallup Daily tracking is at 34% for the three-day period from Friday through Sunday — by one point the lowest of his administration so far,” Frank Newport wrote yesterday. “Republicans' latest weekly approval rating of 79% was the lowest from his own partisans so far, dropping from the previous week's 82%. Democrats gave Trump a 7% job approval rating last week, while the reading for independents was at 29%. This is the first time independents' weekly approval rating for Trump has dropped below 30%.” In the latest Gallup polling, 46 percent of whites approve of Trump’s job performance. That’s the same share Barack Obama had at this point in 2009. But while only 15 percent of nonwhites support Trump, 73 percent backed Obama.
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    Trump: Racism ‘has no place in America’
    Two days after a woman was killed in Charlottesville amid clashes between white nationalists and counterprotesters, President Trump on Aug. 14 condemned racist groups such as the KKK, saying racism “has no place in America.” (Photo: Ricky Carioti/The Washington Post)
    -- Trump appeared reluctant to make his brief remarks yesterday, in which he explicitly condemned the KKK, neo-Nazis and white supremacists. He tacked them on to a hastily arranged speech after praising his own stewardship of the economy, two days after he did not specifically condemn the “Unite the Right” rally and only after an outpouring of criticism from Republican leaders for that omission. Reading from a teleprompter, Trump said that the displays of hatred and bigotry in Charlottesville have “no place in America.” (Read a transcript of the president’s comments here.)
    -- The president was still more tepid than members of his own Cabinet. “Though Trump has regularly employed the phrase ‘radical Islamic terrorism’ to describe other attacks in the United States and the Middle East, he chose not to echo Attorney General Jeff Sessions’s conclusion that the violence in Charlottesville met the Justice Department’s definition of ‘domestic terrorism,’” David Nakamura and Sari Horwitz note. -- Conservative blogger Jennifer Rubin describes Trump’s performance as “classic narcissistic behavior”: “The sole determination of whether Trump likes someone (Saudi royalty, thuggish leaders, etc.) is whether they praise him. It’s always and only about him. He has been far more antagonistic toward Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and his own attorney general … than he has been toward white nationalists because the former were disloyal in his mind, the only unforgivable sin in the Trump White House. …
    “The white nationalists in Charlottesville did not hide their intentions. They were there to revel in the Trump presidency, which explicitly told them it was time to ‘take their country back,’” Rubin notes. “Former KKK grand wizard David Duke left no confusion as to his followers’ admiration for the president: ‘This represents a turning point for the people of this country. We are determined to take our country back. We’re going to fulfill the promises of Donald Trump. That’s what we believed in, that’s why we voted for Donald Trump, because he said he’s going to take our country back, and that’s what we’ve got to do.’”
    -- Meanwhile, alt-right leader Richard Spencer dismissed Trump’s statement as “nonsense,” telling reporters at a news conference yesterday that "[only] a dumb person would take those lines seriously.” Spencer also said he did not consider the president’s words to be a condemnation of the white nationalist movement. “I don't think he condemned it, no,” said Spencer, whose group advocates for a form of American apartheid, per Business Insider. “Did he say 'white nationalist?' 'Racist' means an irrational hatred of people. … I don't think he meant any of us.” Asked whether he considers Trump an ally, Spencer replied that while he didn't think of Trump as “alt-right,” he considers the president to be “the first true authentic nationalist in my lifetime.”
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    These were excerpts from Washington Post's Red States of America, describing Charlotte's volence and a President who did not see it or chose not or saw only  his opponents Vs. his supporters, Who should I condemn?  A President who tries not to offend the ultra right not bcause he feels like he is loyal to them (he is anything but loyal) but feels he will need those people who voted for him before, to vote for him again in 2020. He would like to be the candidate of  only people that will back him no matter what. The questions are; Would it be enough? Would Russia help again? Would the Democrats put another candidate that can be easily mortally wounded again? Would his supporters be enough to make Trump look attractive against the real candidate like it happend on the last elections. H eknows the people that defend civil rights in this country are not going to vote for him and he fels he is not going to reward them no matter how morally rigt they are. Trump said (a praphrasing) referring to the so called condemnation of mainly the Ultra 'I said this because I was told to'. He'll latter say he was joking. This aint no game...
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    What Trump Should Have said:
    FBI Looking for Names of  Trump's opponents
     (CNN)A web hosting provider is fighting back against a search warrant that it claims would require them to turn over information on visitors to a website used to organize protests against President Donald Trump, according to court filings first published on the company's blog Monday.
    DreamHost, the web provider in question, said in the post that it has "been working with the Department of Justice to comply with legal process" for months, but federal prosecutors in DC are seeking "all records" related to the website disruptj20.org, which organized protests against the Trump administration in January.
    Prosecutors obtained a search warrant for the records in July and are now asking a federal judge to force the company to turn over the information.
    The warrant includes "all files" in DreamHost's possession, as well as information on "subscribers" to distruptj20.org and information on those who "participated, planned, organized, or incited" the January protests.
      DreamHost contends in court filings that DOJ's requests are unconstitutionally overbroad and would effectively require them to provide the HTTP logs for over 1.3 million IP addresses of visitors to the website.
      "That information could be used to identify any individuals who used this site to exercise and express political speech protected under the Constitution's First Amendment," DreamHost said in the blog post. "That should be enough to set alarm bells off in anyone's mind. This is, in our opinion, a strong example of investigatory overreach and a clear abuse of government authority."
      It is not clear whether DOJ will stand by the breadth of its request, but it argued in an earlier court filing that "DreamHost's opinion of the breadth of the warrant does not provide it with a basis for refusing to comply with the Court's search warrant and begin an immediate production."
      The US Attorney's office in DC told CNN on Tuesday that beyond its earlier court filings, it had no further comment.
      A court hearing on the matter is scheduled for Friday.

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