Showing posts with label Gay Republican. Show all posts
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July 16, 2016

Log Cabin Republicans Dismayed at GOP anti Gay Platform but Put their Faith on Trump



The anti LGBT GOP new platform in Cleveland still goes to proof  the jest of the Meme above still true
“Insanity is Putting your faith not on what you see, not on what you hear but only on what you wish”LAG’os
          

The Log Cabin Republicans are denouncing the party’s staunchly socially conservative 2016 platform, calling it “the most anti-LGBT platform” in the GOP’s 162-year history.
“I’m mad as hell,” the group’s president, Gregory T. Angelo, wrote in an email to supporters this week.

“Moments ago, the Republican Partypassed the most anti-LGBT Platform in the Party’s 162-year history,” he wrote Tuesday. “Opposition to marriage equality, nonsense about bathrooms, an endorsement of the debunked psychological practice of ‘pray the gay away’ — it’s all in there.

“This isn’t my GOP, and I know it’s not yours either. Heck, it’s not even Donald Trump‘s!” the email continued. “BUT … now is not the time to sit around feeling sorry for ourselves.”
The email then asked for a donation so supporters can “take back” the platform and the party.
The platform, described by The New York Times as a “rightward lurch” from the party’s hard-line platform in 2012, will be officially adopted at the Republican National Convention next week in Cleveland, The Boston Globe reported.

Mr. Trump will be expected to run his campaign based on the platform once he’s officially named the party’s nominee.

The Log Cabin Republicans previously praised Mr. Trump for his response to the Pulse nightclub terrorist attack in Orlando, calling his outreach to the LGBT community “historic.”

“Donald Trump here is showing leadership on LGBT issues, and we haven’t seen that from Republican presidential nominees in decades. Certainly, we’ve never seen a nominee so directly engage with and seek the support from LGBT voters,” Mr. Angelotold CNN at the time. 

“There’s certainly reasons to be skeptical about Trump and LGBT issues, but given his statements … and his actions, there is every indication to believe that Mr. Trump would do no harm on LGBT equality and might actually advance LGBT equality under his presidency.”

 - The Washington Times

July 15, 2016

First Out Gay GOP Platform Member{ Why Gay and Republican?}





Photo by Sasha Haagensen















This is part of the interview Rachel Hoff an active gay republican gave to interviewer Katy Steinmetz at Time. The areas I posted here are in my view the most important views of her as a lesbian and as a republican. She says in the interview she has always been a republican,  so in her world there was nothing else. When you grow up in a particular party or even religion and accept those ideas early own as your ideas, it becomes more difficult to see the other side as anything but “them.” The same rule doesn’t necessarily apply if you have been raised as a democrat and that is because Democrats are not as strict indoctrinators on either religion or the way you vote but particularly the way you vote.  Most parents I’ve known including mines are proud to have their kids take the initiative in that front. Again, this has been my own experience.

I happen to know this first hand because when I voted for the first time I was already questioning my sexuality and my first vote was republican, mainly because of national defense issues and the way we were being told about the domino effect in the GOP. ‘If a nation falls to communism anywhere it eventually will reach us.’  Makes no sense but that was being sold by the GOP and even through I had my doubts  I wanted my nation to be prepared for war and ahead in defense of the USSR (Communist Russia).

Social programs, social security, the poor,  the money spent by the federal government did not touch me except I thought I was paying too much taxes. I was going to do very well eventually I thought, so social security and other things dealing with help from the government was not touching me.
The gay thing was neither here nor there because both parties had the same ideology on this except the democrats were more open to some civil rights being available to all and I really like that.  This eventually brought me over even though it took a long time. Once inside I was able to open my mind of how this political party (gop) stays vibrant even when they loose an election cycle or two. This is a party that is being driven by the very well off but also by the opposite, people who ignore the idea they will need the government.  We all do at one time or another wether we loose a job or become ill.
Some how they don’t worry too much about those issues. Their thinking does not go there.  Most people buy insurance, have a retirement plan and think they are covered.

Once we look at our national budget and how money is spent we realize is not the people that come here that take our jobs or money.  People simply wont do certain jobs. When you take all the numbers as a whole you are able to see that most people do not become wealthy and people will still need the government and those programs they like to criticize weather is the courts, the IRS, supplement their health insurance with Medicaid or Medicare if they have become disabled and poor. Just think about every Republican candidate for office of president. They have all run on the issue of government spending. Not on the military or other areas but on social programs. They criticize the lawyers for suing and for the courts for awarding big settlements. May be the candidate now will be different and wont critique the lawyers since part of his time he spends with them suing. This week is a new law suit for $10 millions.

If the manufacturers, builders, etc.,  that sold goods or work in a particular enterprise that declared one of the chapters of protection, then they get stiffed. Who should they blame? Im making a point that most of us will need assistance from our government wether we deny it or not. We simply don’t know when but statistics show that most people will. We will need protection from creditors, hospitals, other individuals and even the government itself.

Ms. Hoff  personally knew only one side of the story between Dems and GOP’rs and even when her side did not offer her marriage equality for her and her partner or even the most mundane civil rights straight people don’t even know they have, that was ok because she was getting them through the other side. But Im sure she did not liked it. One might say one day the GOP will also be behind all of those things it fights against now, never mind that it would have never happen in any of our generations if it wasn’t for the other political party.  Why criticize the “GOP” party for being anti gay when it is ok for most people to come out, marry and walk with the head high knowing that they are socially on equal footing with straights. So what if your own party fights that. That doesn’t touch those people that are not able to get in other people’s shoes but only their own.

Even with what we’ve won already thanks to a gay friendly president, the democrats and the active commitments of LGBT in this nation we are still at peril. All we need is a GOP President filling the court with Alito’s and Clarence Thomas’s and good bye gay rights. There still constant fights from states even denying marriage to LGBT even with a Supreme Court decision making it the law of the land.
What does Ms. Hoff thinks when she fights for anti gay Republicans?

Why does racially poor whites usually go GOP? 
They live off the government and side with the politicians that want to take or curtail their benefits.  This is because they believe that they deserve to be taken care off and no matter which party wins they will be taken care off but they will vote not with their benefits which they see as deserve income because the government did not supply them with jobs (even though they are the ones that did not even finish H.S). Their socially, religious ideas of how the nation should be is paramount.  God will take care of them as long as they don’t side with the “devil and the homos.”

It’s kind of funny when I talked with whites in the south or coming from the there. They contradicted with what they said and what they were doing.  But even in NY and south Florida you find white and hispanics that will always vote GOP because they are the party that sticks closer to god and want the bible in schools and in the courts and would like the government to be a theocracy without even knowing the word. They read their bibles and interpret that things need to get real bad here so their christ will come back. The same with very religious jews. I have personally heard of this in my own family (I have a big family).  

When Ms. Hoff tried introducing a gay/lesbian friendly rule into the GOP platform for this coming election she pleaded: “there are diverse and sincerely held views on marriage” within the party. “We are your daughters. We are your sons, your friends, your neighbors, your colleagues, the couple who sits next to you in church,” she said. “Freedom means freedom for everyone, including gays and lesbians … And all I ask today is you include me and those like me.” By an unofficial vote of about 30 to 82, the amendment failed.
Adam Gonzalez, Publisher

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What do Republicans stand for in your view?

What the Internet told me was that they stood for individual freedom, for limited government, for the idea that you could make your own decisions better than the government could make them for you, whether that was decisions about how to spend your personal life or decisions about how to spend your money, and a strong national defense. That was something that was always very important to me and went on to define my career.

When did you first realize there were parts of that party that don’t approve of homosexuality?

I remember that was a very, very hard day for me. I went to college in Massachusetts, and my senior year was 2004. That was the year the state Supreme Court issued their ruling [allowing same-sex marriage], which was the first in the country, a real landmark case. My senior year was also when I realized I was gay. So I had just come out. And I went down to the state capitol to observe the protests.

There was this gay community, which I was intrigued by but not a part of. And there were the conservatives on the other side, who had this political belief that I was supposed to be for because that’s what you believed if you were conservative. And I didn’t feel part of either group, and I didn’t really know what group I wanted to be a part of. But the conservatives’ rhetoric and their signs and their whole approach was very hurtful, very offensive.

At this point, more than a decade later, do you still have that same feeling of being torn between two groups or have you reconciled that ambivalence?

I get that question a lot, like how can you be gay and Republican? Those are both parts of who I am, so I don’t have to reconcile them. I have to reconcile my interactions with both of those communities and both of their beliefs about the other community. Even including the last two days, I have received more backlash and opposition in the gay community for being Republican than I have in Republican circles for being gay.

Socially it’s just very, very acceptable within the gay community to say mean things about the Republicans, to, when you meet a gay Republican, to accuse them of being a self-hating gay person. Whereas for Republicans there is certainly a lot of harmful rhetoric and hurtful rhetoric. We see that in the platform we passed this week. But on a personal basis, I can’t think of a single time where anybody has said anything mean to my face, other than not supporting my constitutional rights. Clearly that’s offensive to me in a different way.

So when you get that incredulous question about how you are both gay and Republican, what do you tell people?

What usually comes out is that I clearly disagree with my party on this issue, on marriage, on LGBT rights. But that’s one part of who I am and that’s one issue that I care about. Were I to be a Democrat because they’re for equality and LGBT rights, there would be a whole list of issues I would disagree with that party about. So I wouldn’t feel more at home there, just because on this one issue I’m like-minded. To me, being an Independent has never really been an attractive option, though I did think about it over the last couple days.

What did you think being on the platform committee was going to be like and what were you hoping to achieve?

I ran for the platform committee because I wanted to attempt to soften language on LGBT issues, though I also have other priorities like national security issues and representing D.C. First of all, it was important that I be vocal about being gay. I’ve been out for 10 years now. So it’s not like I came out at the platform committee. But I really wanted to say it there, because I thought it was important that the people in the room, particularly those who are in favor of traditional marriage and against LGBT rights, be reminded that they were talking to a gay person.

When our platform comes out next week, it’s going to be a big letter to all Americans, including LGBT Americans, about why they should vote for us. And right now I don’t think they have much reason to do so. … I hoped that I might have some sort of softening effect on what people said and did. It does not appear to have had that effect based on the language that came out of the committee, but I still think that it’s important for people to know that you’re in the room.

Did you think you could get the votes or were you more intent on saying your piece, without much hope of that?

The amendment that I offered was not for marriage equality or to support the Supreme Court Obergefell decision or to embrace LGBT rights or to address the transgender bathroom issue. I really wanted to keep it focused on what I thought was a reasonable approach, just acknowledging and respecting that Republicans have different beliefs on these issues. Had I gone in there with some sort of marriage equality amendment, I certainly would have had zero hope that it would have passed. I was optimistic that the amendment that I offered would get more support, but I don’t think there was a time where I thought it would pass.

There was a back and forth in which another delegate argued for LGBT inclusive language and someone else responded to her, alleging that she was suggesting everyone who didn’t agree with her was a bigot. People clapped in agreement. She said that wasn’t her intention, but it was tense. What were you thinking during that exchange?

The reality is that all of us who support LGBT rights got frustrated. Another member offered an amendment to stand with LGBT people around the world who are targeted by violence and terrorism, and that went down in flames. In another section, the Orlando attack was mentioned, so I offered an amendment to describe it as ‘the terrorist attack on the LGBT community in Orlando.’ And they wouldn’t even do that. We knew that the platform committee wasn’t our home turf, and I did not expect to win every amendment, but I also did not expect the rigidity with which the committee would refuse to even mention the LGBT community more broadly in a positive way.

What do you make of that rigidity?

I don’t know. It could be just extremely well organized and tightly controlled influence from the traditional marriage activists. It could also be that people … are afraid of some slippery slope, wherein that would put us down that path toward supporting LGBT rights. Or maybe there’s a concern to even a single positive reference would hurt us with social conservatives, but I think that’s absurd. I give social conservatives much more credit than being turned off by language like that.

Is there a risk the party is running of alienating young voters by not being more inclusive of the LGBT community?

The demographic realities are clear on this issue. Young voters overwhelming support marriage equality—and even young Republican voters support marriage equality. There’s a lot in the Republican Party that could appeal to young voters, but they won’t even consider voting Republican because of our stance on this issue. Right now our party is not even an option for them, by and large. But that’s not the reason we should evolve on those issues. The reason why we need to change our stance is that it’s the right thing to do and because it’s in line with Republican principles of liberty, freedom and equality.

The complete interview can be read by clicking on Time.

February 2, 2016

Log Cabin Giddy When Trump Dissed Mexicans Now He does it to Gays-Are they still Giddy?



                                                                     


Log Cabin republicans is a group of gays not happy with a fact of life; They want to be Republicans even when Republicans have said time after time they hate gays. When an anti gay story hit the waves, they go back to the closet and become Republicans not gays. When the heat of whatever anti gay statement is passed they again put their wooden log-gay hats and go and hide in the cabin. They are always against the Democrat candidate no matter how gay friendly but they endorse whatever GOP candidate no matter how anti gay, even when the candidate returns their money. If getting their check return doesn’t say something to a Republican, then they are just beyond stupid and anyone with a little common sense most give up on them. I did years ago not even writing about them because they don’t make a difference ( as so called gays) from within and never from the outside (you have to be out and proud for that).

I ignored this group when they supported Trump back in December thinking time takes cares of the dumb since words can’t. Time is here and is time to post how stupid they are just to remind any Independent gays and they are many thinking Trump is the new white sliced bread. Trump might be that but only in a physical way. The Log has also endorsed Sanders against Hillary and without Sander’s approval has put out slander dirt on Hillary on his name. It is a good thing he is a decent man and has run a clean campaign up to now.

Michelangelo Signorile on Trump and Log Cabin Republicans - whom Peter Staley calls "the dumbest queens on the planet." I think "dumb" is a nice word for them. I call them Vichy Gays.
And get this Bernie supporters. The Log Cabin Republicans have taken out an attack ad on Hillary based on her, yes, unequivocal opposition to marriage equality in the early 2000s until she, yes, equivocated and came fully onboard with that and other LGBT issues for this campaign but, in so doing, the Log Cabin Republicans take it a step further and practically endorse Sanders against her in the primaries. With friends like those ..."And then this past weekend, courting evangelicals in Iowa, Trump said he will work to reverse the Supreme Court's marriage equality ruling, promising to put 'certain judges on the bench' to make it happen."
And suddenly, Log Cabin has gone silent on Trump. Woops!


Dec. 16 Reuters
                                        
Donald Trump’s been accused of being a bully and a bigot. But he stands out among Republican presidential hopefuls for his comparative sensitivity to one politically potent minority group: the gay community.

Trump has advocated for banning workplace discrimination based on sexual orientation. He criticized a Kentucky county clerk who refused to issue marriage licenses after the U.S. Supreme Court found, earlier this year, that the Constitution protects the right of same-sex couples to marry. He is also one of only two Republican candidates — along with New Jersey Governor Chris Christie — that the Human Rights Campaign deems to have even a “mixed” record on gay rights

“He is one of the best, if not the best, pro-gay Republican candidates to ever run for the presidency,” said Gregory T. Angelo, president of the Log Cabin Republicans, an advocacy group for LGBT Republicans. Trump would do no harm on same-sex marriage, Angelo said, and has a “stand-out position” on non-discrimination legislation.

That’s not to say the real-estate mogul and former reality TV star trumps Democrats when it comes to issues of importance to gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender Americans. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders and former Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley are all vocal advocates for most of the priorities of the LGBT community. Nor does it mean gay and lesbian Republicans will ignore Trump’s treatment of other minority constituencies — or base their votes on LGBT issues.

But it does mean that Trump has an opening to draw support from gay Republicans in the primary, and that could matter in states where the LGBT community is particularly well organized. It also means he could get financial and political support from the Log Cabin Republicans and their allies in the general election. Whether or not he’s the favored Republican among gay and lesbian voters, Trump could be their ally if he makes it to the White House.

Social issues were absent from Tuesday’s Republican presidential primary debate in Las Vegas, the first GOP confab since the Paris and San Bernardino, California, terrorist attacks. But even without emphasizing his stance on issues important to LGBT voters — and perhaps in part because he doesn’t — Trump appears to be gaining traction with gay Republicans.

Pax Hart, a 45-year-old software engineer in New York, was a Rand Paul supporter and low-dollar donor until he saw video of Trump’s immigration speech in Phoenix, Arizona, this summer. Where some voters see xenophobia in Trump’s promise to build a wall between the United States and Mexico and his proposal to put a moratorium on Muslims traveling to the United States, Hart, who is gay, says he sees policies that would prevent dilution of LGBT rights in the country.

“We are importing people who are the absolute most hostile to gays and lesbians,” Hart said of discrimination against LGBT citizens in some Middle Eastern and Latin American countries. “We’re bringing in people who are indoctrinated that gays [should be] exterminated.”

As Hart points out, Trump is hardly emphasizing his positions on gay rights or social issues as he seeks the nomination in a party heavily influenced by religious conservatives.

“It’s not that he’s an advocate or anything like that,” Hart said. “It’s not an issue for him. It’s about fairness for him.”

But among the top candidates for the nomination, Trump’s tone, temperament and record are distinct.

Texas Senator Ted Cruz backs a constitutional amendment that would reverse the Supreme Court’s ruling on same-sex marriage and has opposed workplace anti-discrimination legislation. Likewise, Florida Senator Marco Rubio opposes marriage rights and efforts to ban employment discrimination. And Ben Carson, who is mostly in line with Cruz and Rubio on policy, has further angered LGBT-rights groups with his rhetoric.

Trump, too, opposes same-sex marriage. But he criticized the Kentucky clerk, and, in an interview with The Hollywood Reporter this year, he condemned Republican candidates who called for a reversal of the court’s judgment.

“Anybody that’s making that an issue is doing it for political reasons,” he said. “The Supreme Court ruled on it.”

Of course, Trump’s moderation on gay rights won’t bring him many votes from LGBT Democrats. Boasting a more tolerant record than the rest of the Republican Party hardly merits a medal, they say.

“The truth is if you are a Republican who is either gay or a Republican for whom gay rights are important, there is nobody in that field who is attractive to you,” Richard Socarides, a former top adviser to President Bill Clinton and prominent gay-rights advocate, said.

“Trump, because he was part of the New York business community and obviously knew a lot of gay people, probably has supported gay rights measures as one-offs,” Socarides said. “But at the core of the gay civil-rights movement, are ideas of diversity and inclusion. Of all the candidates he is probably the least supportive of diversity and inclusion.”

And therein lies the rub for Angelo’s Log Cabin Republicans. They have asked for an audience with Trump, and in January they are due to begin discussing their criteria for endorsing whomever the GOP nominates for president. Angelo qualified his praise for Trump’s record with the caveat that he’s been polarizing on other issues. That, Angelo said, “is something that should at least come into the discussion.”Since 1992, the Log Cabin Republicans have endorsed or withheld their endorsement from Republican nominees based on key issues. But Trump might be able garner its support.

Whether Trump’s record is good enough for Log Cabin Republicans, the Human Rights Campaign argues the differences between Trump and his GOP rivals are minimal on the issues of greatest importance to the LGBT community.

“Not one of the major Republican candidates supports the Equality Act, which would guarantee full federal equality for LGBT people by adding them to our nation’s civil rights laws,” said JoDee Winterhof, senior vice president of policy and political affairs at the organization. “Not one of them supports marriage equality, but several say they’ll appoint justices who’ll seek to overturn the Supreme Court’s ruling. Not one of them has vowed to protect President Obama’s executive order protecting LGBT federal contractors, though some have vowed to immediately repeal it. “Trump is no different, and he is not an ally of the LGBT community.”

The group’s website makes clear, however, that Trump is the least offensive of the Republican candidates for supporters of LGBT rights — with the possible exception of Christie. Though Trump can’t expect to pick up support from large numbers of gay and lesbian Democrats in a general election, his record and rhetoric may win him the backing of LGBT Republicans in the primary, and, if he wins the nomination, next November.

Adam Gonzalez

May 30, 2015

Gay Hotelier Hosted Ted Cruz Also gave Him Contribution



                                 
Cruz on right


When the gay hoteliers Ian Reisner and Mati Weiderpass found themselves under siege for hosting a dinner for Ted Cruz, the Texas senator who is running for president and has been vociferously opposed to same-sex marriage, they repeatedly stressed that the event was not a fund-raiser.



Senator Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas, was one of the presidential candidates who spoke at the Champions of Jewish Values gala on Thursday night in Manhattan.Credit James Estrin/The New York Times

“There were no checks given, it was nothing like that,” Mr. Reisner told New York magazine, after The New York Times first reported on the mid-April dinner at the Central Park South penthouse. 

Protests and calls for boycotts of Mr. Reisner’s and Mr. Weiderpass’s properties, including their groundbreaking hotel for gay clientele, the Out NYC, ensued.

As it turns out, Mr. Reisner himself wrote a check to Mr. Cruz’s presidential campaign, making a $2,700 donation — the maximum allowed in a nominating contest — around the time the dinner took place.

But shortly after The Times reported on the dinner, where about 18 people sat down at two tables in separate areas of the palatial penthouse, Mr. Reisner called the campaign and asked for his check to be refunded.

“In the interest of transparency, I gave Senator Cruz a $2,700 check to show my support for his work on behalf of Israel,” Mr. Reisner said in a statement he provided after The Times learned of the donation from two people with direct knowledge of it. “When I realized his donation could be misconstrued as supporting his anti-gay marriage agenda, I asked for the money back. Senator Cruz’s office gave the money back, and I have no intention of giving any money to any politicians who aren’t in support of L.G.B.T. issues.”

A spokesman for Mr. Cruz declined to comment. Mr. Reisner, a friend insisted, was aware that his donation — and the refund — will appear on Mr. Cruz’s campaign finance filing when it becomes public in July.

Mr. Reisner and Mr. Weiderpass have been doing damage control for over a month since the dinner, which made them pariahs in New York City’s gay rights community in which they’d been figures for years. As two people who have rarely donated politically, they seemed surprised by the reaction, stressing they were drawn to Mr. Cruz because of their mutual interests in foreign policy. Mr. Reisner repeatedly insisted he was unaware of Mr. Cruz’s strident views against same-sex marriage, and has since apologized and denounced the Texas lawmaker.

Mr. Cruz faced some questions over why the campaign didn’t do a more thorough vetting of Mr. Reisner and Mr. Weiderpass, business partners and former lovers who still co-own their penthouse, where a young man was found unconscious in their bathtub from a drug overdose last October and was pronounced dead at a nearby hospital.

Yet the anger at the hoteliers has been fierce and unrelenting. Mr. Reisner is under great pressure from angry residents in the Fire Island Pines who want him to divest of his interest in the commercial property there. In early May, Eric von Kuersteiner, a businessman on Fire Island who previously owned the properties in the harbor, even approached Mr. Reisner offering to buy him out for somewhere in the ballpark of $2 million.

Jon Reinish, a Democratic strategist who works with several gay rights causes, said he was not surprised to learn that there had been a check given after all, saying it’s typical for campaign staff members to follow up after such events asking if attendees would consider making a “max-out” donation.

“Anyone with a passing knowledge of politics knows this,” Mr. Reinish said. “So the idea that fund-raising was not a part of this was not believable from the get-go.”

Still, he said there was something unthinkable about a person in Mr. Reisner’s position giving any money to Senator Cruz.

“It’s not like they sat down with Jeb Bush,” he said. “They sat down with a proud enemy of the gay community. Ted Cruz legislates on that, he runs on that. It’s one of the foundations of his platform and it’s not just opposition to gay marriage. He’s against basic civil rights and he’s been out there on that from the very beginning.”

Mr. Weiderpass, who served in the military, said that he had not given a check to Mr. Cruz himself. He seemed surprised to learn of Mr. Reisner’s donation, when told about by it as he was walking between tables at the Marriott Marquis in Times Square on Thursday night. He was there for an event hosted by Rabbi Shmuley Boteach, at which Mr. Cruz happened to be one of the speakers.

Rabbi Boteach, who supports gay rights, has been trying to build a bridge with Mr. Cruz over such issues, and invited Mr. Weiderpass to attend, the hotel developer said.

He was not there to see Mr. Cruz, although that was exactly what happened.

“Literally the first person I saw was Senator Cruz” when he arrived at the event, Mr. Weiderpass said. They exchanged “hellos,” and Mr. Weiderpass moved on. He said he didn’t want to create a new story out of their encounter.

Haberman and Jacob Bernstein

The Thing with people with a lot of money that need to make more like Hoteliers, Developers etc., even if they are gay. The need for legal rights, do not touch them. They can get everything they want with their money. This particular Hotelier is gay but a republican so he is looking out for his peeps.  Yes, the GOP still fighting us on Gay marriage, equal rights but they figure those are for us the people.  What we need to do is know the Hotels from this guy and hold back our money. It is not going to make him poor but may be it will be a message for others.
             

March 2, 2015

GOP Gives Formal Recognition to Log Cabin Republicans


                                                                            

In a historic move, the California Republican Party on Sunday officially recognized a gay GOP group.

The Log Cabin Republicans, a 38-year-old organization that had unsuccessfully sought a charter from the state party several times in the past, received the formal imprimatur on a 861-293 vote at the party’s biannual convention in Sacramento.

It is among the first gay groups officially sanctioned by a state Republican Party.
 

“It would have been the complete opposite 15 years ago,” said Gesicki, who also turned in a proxy vote from former Lt. Gov. Abel Maldonado supporting the recognition. “The fringe does not control the party anymore. We truly are a big tent once again.”

Charles Moran, chairman of the Log Cabin California chapter, was visibly emotional after Sunday’s vote.

“I’m personally overwhelmed,” he said, noting that he got his start in politics as a staffer at the state party in 1999. “This is the culmination of a 15-year journey for me.”

The move comes as attitudes toward homosexuality and same-sex marriage have shifted across the United States. A February CNN poll found 42% of Republicans favored same-sex marriage, a sharp increase from previous polls. 

 

Log Cabin was founded in California 38 years ago and was the first gay GOP group in the country. It and other groups have sparred with Republican officials and conservative leaders over the years, and received varying levels of acceptance.

The national Log Cabin group was once again turned down as a sponsor for last week’s Conservative Political Action Committee gathering in Maryland, but its executive director was invited to speak on a panel. In Texas last year, two gay Republican groups were barred from having a booth at a state party convention.


Tolerance in California has been greater. Last year, GOP gubernatorial candidate Neel Kashkari marched in a San Diego gay-pride parade, the first statewide Republican candidate to do so. Assemblyman Rocky Chavez, who is considering a run for U.S. Senate, supports same-sex marriage. The Log Cabin Luau, at which attendees don rainbow-colored leis and sip Mai Tais, is among the best-attended parties at state GOP conventions.

Moran and his supporters had cited the work that his members did in several competitive election contests last year to argue that the group deserves a party charter.

“We’ve earned our street cred,” Moran said Saturday.

The group worked for two years to make sure its application aligned with party bylaws.

“A lot of us knew we were Republican before we knew we were gay, so this is home for us,” he said.

With the recognition, “the left will not be able to say to us anymore, ‘The Republican Party doesn’t want you.' "

The group’s effort received support from longtime GOP leaders, including national committee member Shawn Steel, former state party chairman Bob Naylor and Assemblyman Scott Wilk (R-Santa Clarita).

“The Log Cabin Republicans have given their time, money and resources to this party time and time again, and we have given them nothing in return,” said Nathan Miller, chairman of the California Young Republican Federation, a group for young professionals that is chartered by the state party. “This vote is not about orientation, it’s about participation.”

Opposition came from social conservatives, who said the move violated the party’s values.

Andrew Levy, a delegate from Sacramento, said the decision to grant the recognition was an affront to his Jewish faith.

“People supported the Republican Party because they’re strong on family values,” Levy said, adding that the embrace of the gay group undermined his trust in the GOP.

John Briscoe, president of the socially conservative California Republican Assembly, pointed to Log Cabin’s support of same-sex marriage.

“I have a hard time understanding how we’re going to charter an organization that’s in opposition to our platform,” he said during the debate.

The party’s official platform says homosexuality is unacceptable.

“We believe public policy and education should not be exploited to present or teach homosexuality as an acceptable ‘alternative’ lifestyle. We oppose same-sex partner benefits, child custody, and adoption,” the platform says.

Some opponents said Log Cabin's proposal was sneaked onto the convention agenda without notice, and that the group violates the party’s by-laws, which forbid the recognition of organizations focused on “lifestyle preferences.”

“The only thing I ask is this body stand on the rules we’ve supported for two decades that say there is a process to change the rules and the bylaws,” Assemblywoman Shannon Grove repeatedly pleaded during the hearing.

State party chairman Jim Brulte replied that he had followed the rules -- by forwarding the group’s application to the volunteer organizations committee, which on Saturday voted to unanimously send the proposal to the floor for a vote.

The Sunday morning debate and vote count took nearly an hour. Five people were allowed to testify in support, and five in opposition. Though the debate was largely civil, there were a few testy outbursts, mostly on points of order, prompting Brulte to admonish at one point: “Everyone take a deep breath.”

Times staff writer Melanie Mason contributed to this report.

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August 19, 2014

Majority of Republicans will vote gay but pissed if they conceived a gay child



                                                                         
  

A majority of Republicans say the sexual orientation of a congressional candidate would not impact their vote, a new poll found.
Sixty-eight percent of Republicans who responded to a McClatchy-Marist poll said it wouldn’t make any difference one way or another if they heard a well-qualified candidate for Congress was gay.
Such numbers are good news in an election year that has three openly gay Republicans running for the House of Representatives — Richard Tisei in Massachusetts, Dan Innis in New Hampshire and Carl DeMaio in California. But while such data shows a continued shift within the Republican Party (no openly gay Republican has ever been elected to Congress, although some have come out after their elections), the poll also indicated the GOP continues to lag behind a majority of Americans in their embrace of LGBT equality.
According to the poll, 63 percent of Republicans oppose same-sex marriage compared to 53 percent of Americans who support same-sex couples’ right to marry. And while Republicans would vote for a gay candidate, a majority of Republicans would be upset if they learned their child was gay, with 23 percent responding they would be “very upset,” 37 percent “upset” and 13 percent “not very upset.” In contrast, 48 percent of Americans would not be upset at all.
While a majority of Republicans continue to oppose same-sex marriage, 59 percent said the issue should be decided by the states and 36 percent said federal law should decide the issue for the entire country. Meanwhile, 50 percent of Americans believe same-sex marriage should be decided by federal law.
Although every demographic has seen increased support for LGBT-rights in recent years, the poll aligns with others conducted in recent years showing that the Republican Party’s growing support continues to move at a slower pace than Democrats, independents and Americans as a whole. Such statistics could prove detrimental to a Republican Party that has sought to become more inclusive after a series of electoral defeats, particularly as the Democratic Party has strengthened their political hold on LGBT rights.
Last month a Gallup poll found LGBT people are twice as likely as other Americans to identify as politically liberal. According to the poll, 63 percent of LGBT Americans identify as Democrats or lean toward the Democratic Party compared to 21 percent who identify as Republicans or lean Republican. 
Justin Snow is Metro Weekly's political editor and White House correspondent. He can be reached at jsnow@metroweekly.com.

October 21, 2013

Gay Supporters Fighting to Get The GOP Party Back from the Fringes




  • Almost no elected Republicans support giving gays the right to marry. The party’s influential social-conservative wing sees “traditional marriage” as a defining issue. And while most major Democrats are rushing to embrace same-sex marriage, none of the most prominent potential Republican presidential candidates have taken that step.
  • But a powerful group of Republican donors, who see the GOP’s staunch opposition to gay rights as a major problem, is trying to push the party toward a more welcoming middle ground — where candidates who oppose marriage rights can do so without seeming hateful. The behind-the-scenes effort is being led largely by GOP mega-donor Paul Singer, a hedge fund executive whose son is gay, and former Republican National Committee chairman Ken Mehlman, who revealed his homosexuality in 2010, long after he had left the GOP leadership.
  • Singer’s advocacy group, the American Unity Fund, has been quietly prodding Republican lawmakers to take a first step toward backing gay rights by voting for the Employment Non-Discrimination Act. The measure, which is expected to come to the full Senate for a vote as early as this month, would ban workplace discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation or gender identity.
  • Singer’s group recently hired as lobbyists two former GOP lawmakers, Tom Reynolds (N.Y.) and Norm Coleman (Minn.), who say they oppose same-sex marriage but support workplace protections for gays.
  • Armed with new polling data and talking points, organizers are coaching lawmakers and potential candidates on politically smart ways to talk about gay rights to reassure general-election voters while not alienating core conservatives.
  • A softer GOP approach, they argue, would boost the party’s chances with young voters, women and centrist independents, all of whom tend to be supportive of gay rights and have drifted away from the party.
  • One poll-tested sound bite being suggested to candidates references the Golden Rule — to “treat others as we’d like to be treated, including gay, lesbian and transgender Americans.” The line, according to a memo from a GOP polling firm hired to guide the campaign, wins support from 89 percent of Republican voters.
  • “The Republican image, unfortunately, is one in which we have an empathy gap,” Coleman said. “That impacts us across the board. An issue like this, which is about being against discrimination, feeds into the long-term future of the party. It addresses one of the negatives that we are facing today.”
  • Some pro-gay-rights Republicans point hopefully to New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie as a case study of a GOP pol who seems to be looking for a politically viable approach. The governor, expected to easily win reelection next month, is close to Singer, though aides to both men declined to discuss their private conversations about the issue.
  • Christie won praise from social conservatives last year for vetoing a same-sex-marriage bill. But he also routinely voices sympathy for gays; in a debate last week, for instance, he said that if one of his children came out, he would “grab them and hug them and tell them I love them.”    
  • Christie, who has said he does not see homosexuality as a sin, nominated an openly gay judge to the state Supreme Court and, in August, signed a law banning licensed therapists from practicing gay conversion therapy on minors. LGBT activists hailed an anti-bullying law he signed as one of the country’s toughest measures protecting gay children.
  • Christie’s opposition has not been enough to block same-sex marriage in New Jersey.
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  • A state judge ruled last month that gay marriage should be legal, clearing the way for same-sex nuptials to begin this week. The Christie administration appealed. But the state Supreme Court, which will hear oral arguments in January, said last week that weddings should be allowed to proceed, and Christie ordered state agencies to comply.
  • Gay rights activists, meanwhile, are rallying votes in the legislature on a second track, to override the governor’s veto of the marriage bill.
  • Troy Stevenson, executive director of Garden State Equality, said his group has a closer relationship with Christie than it had with his Democratic predecessors. Like other activists, he sees the governor’s stance on marriage as an anomaly most likely attributable to calculations around his presidential ambitions.
  • “I honestly don’t see what is holding him back” from supporting same-sex marriage, Stevenson said, “except for potentially politics.”
  • Organizers of the pro-gay Republican effort say they remain committed to pressing for marriage rights, with Singer and Mehlman both backing a number of state-level campaigns — including the push to override Christie’s veto.
  • “But we’re telling Republicans, ‘If you think you can’t get there on marriage, here is a safe list of things you can support,’” said Jeff Cook-McCormac, senior adviser to Singer’s advocacy group.
  • Organizers say they are confident that the Senate will pass the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA). The Republican-led House, they say, is a taller order, though they note that Rep. Paul Ryan (Wis.), the party’s 2012 vice-presidential nominee, has voiced support for workplace protections in the past.
  • Social-conservative leaders say the effort by gay rights backers won’t work.
  • “Regardless of how much money [Singer and his allies] bring to the table, it is not to the advantage of Republican officeholders politically to support his agenda,” said Peter Sprigg, senior fellow for policy studies at the Family Research Council, one of the major evangelical groups opposing the ENDA. “Particularly in Republican primaries, the Republican Party is still strongly socially conservative. These are core convictions that people have.”
  • Sprigg described the ENDA as a “legislative way to declare that it’s morally wrong to disapprove of homosexual conduct.” The bill, he said, is a “direct attack against the moral convictions of social conservatives.”
  • In their lobbying appointments and meetings with candidates and strategists, advocates argue that politicians need not fear a backlash should they decide to change course on gay rights issues.
  • “Because it’s so personal, we are helping them through the process and helping guide them, and showing them that Republican support is there in the electorate, that they’re not going to be punished,” said Dan Meyers, a former RNC staffer who is president of Project Right Side, an advocacy group rolled out by Mehlman after the 2012 elections.
  • Increasing pressure is also coming from Republican donors who see gay rights as a determining factor in who gets their checks. The issue routinely comes up at New York GOP fundraisers, Cook-McCormac said, “always in the context of, ‘The party’s got to get over this.’
  • New data being circulated by the campaign show that a clear majority of Republicans back the workplace anti-discrimination law. In contrast, though support for same-sex marriage has been rising among GOP voters, it remains a minority view in the party’s electorate.
  • Reynolds voted against the employment-protections bill in 2007. At the time, he said, he saw it as a “trial lawyer bonanza.” But similar state laws have not sparked frivolous lawsuits, he said.
  • “There just doesn’t seem to be evidence of some of the concerns that were presented at the time,” he said.
  • The outreach to GOP lawmakers is closely aligned with a $2 million pro-ENDA lobbying campaign being run by a new bipartisan coalition called Americans for Workplace Opportunity. Singer has forged an unusual partnership with a liberal Democratic donor, Jonathan Lewis, with each pledging $250,000 for the effort.
  • Singer said the ENDA is “an opportunity for Republicans to do what is right and reinforce the American principle that people should be judged on their merits.” 

June 4, 2013

{THe SHip is Left Port} Young Republicans Support Gay Marriage More than Boomers



I have never liked my generation of baby boomers. I am a very late baby boomer, so Im not even sure I am one and I hope I am not. What do Adam Gonzalez have against Julio Rodriguez and Tom Jones who are baby boomers? Nothing Personal but I do have against that generation that even though they preached ’Love not war.’ they preached freedom for all, we are all brothers and sisters. But when they left college and went to work they became the worse parents and worse civil citizens. 
They went hard against Pot and have put people for life on pot charges and not all ’trafficants’ No lessons learn from Viet nam. We still go and attack nations that have done nothing to us or our allies.
My biggest point was how closeted they were either because they were gay or because they were straight but  someone told them that it might have been wrong many thousands of years ago that gay was not natural so we most oppose it. Not only opposed but outlaw it. Like any human being has the right to outlaw another one just because they are a human being.
But life has a way to make you eat your own excrement if you ever told somebody it was just dark chocolate cake. In other words the boomerang always comes back to the attacker. Now their sons and daughters started telling them they were gay! After they got tired of kicking them out of their houses or spending 23k on Psyco’s trying to change little David, Little David wants a big John and there is nothing anybody can do about it.
It took the generations following the boomers to have the audacity to go to a tiki bar at the beach and all the straight couples were dancing and holding hands and the gays would do the same.  In certain times the owners were smart, they would say is money and they are not creating trouble. In other cases it went bad but they had the courage they were “Fierce.” When I saw this at Panama City on Spring break of 1995 I said to my then partner, we have arrived. This generation does not care what people say about them, they are going to push to be themselves and be happy. This is what’s happened . It’s amazing to find out numbers that say that Young Republicans out numbered boomers in supporting gay marriage. Now think for a second of that out of this earth occurrence and I emphasize “young REPUBLCANS” More than boomers. I’ll give you the numbers now:
In his intentionally wrinkled button-down shirt, with trimmed hair and eager poise, Sam Adkisson is the kind of young Republican his party needs.
Enlarge imageTennessee Where Gays Can’t Marry Makes Young Doubt Republicans
A same-sex couple at their home in San Francisco, California on May 02, 2013. This year, the couple will celebrate 54 years of being together and five years of marriage. Photographer: Josh Edelson/AFP via Getty Images
Adkisson, 20, a rising junior at Vanderbilt University in Nashville, Tennessee, says he believes in the Republican creed of limited government and lower taxes. At the same time, he says, his party is wrong to oppose same-sex marriage.
He is part of the shift toward near-majority support for the right of gays to marry in the U.S., a change propelled by adults ages 18 to 29 -- a group that outnumbers the Baby Boom generation -- according to polling at Harvard University’s Institute of Politics. The move will have political consequences, especially for a Republican Party that already has lost ground among Hispanics and women as the gay-marriage issue tests the loyalties of younger voters.
Yet even as 12 states have approved some form of gay marriage, 30 states prohibit it, including 25 by constitutional amendment. Unless the U.S. Supreme Court (1000L) offers a sweeping ruling later this month on the issue, Republicans will be trying state-by-state to persuade young voters to back them and reject their peers.
“For my generation, the ship has sailed,” Adkisson said in an interview. “With my generation especially, equality under the law, we are going to support it almost everywhere.”
Unlike comparatively consistent views about guns and abortion among students, Adkisson said, “gay marriage is the one issue where I do see a shift, and a tangible one.”
The Republican National Committee, as part of an internal examination of the party, released a report today exploring its failings among young voters, including opposition to same-sex marriage. “It was unmistakable in the focus groups that gay marriage was a reason many of these young voters disliked” the party, the report said.
Even in Tennessee, which banned gay marriage by constitutional amendment in 2006 with the support of 81 percent of voters, there are signs of change. Vanderbilt University released a poll May 12 showing 49 percent of those surveyed favored either same-sex marriage or civil unions. Among those under 30, support ran at 69 percent.
“The whole country is moving toward gay rights broadly,” said John Geer, chairman of political science at Vanderbilt, who oversees the poll. “Tennessee is part of that, not in the same place as Massachusetts but moving in the same direction.”
And young adults are driving the change. John Della Volpe, director of polling at Harvard’s Institute of Politics, said surveys of millenials -- people born between 1980 and 2000 -- showed they either favored recognizing same-sex marriage or said they didn’t care by a ratio of 3-to-1.
“This is saying that 26 percent of young Americans don’t believe it should be recognized,” Della Volpe said. “This demographic group that we are polling is the largest generation in the history of America, larger than Baby Boomers, most are of age and they will continue to become a more important force in elections.”
The Institute of Politics survey also showed little regional variation in support, though opposition to gay marriage was highest in the South, at 31 percent.
Michael Feldman, a Democrat who graduated from Vanderbilt in May, saw his fellow students’ views change during their four years on campus, often because he had friends who were gay or because of exposure to entertainment that embraced gay marriage.
“I really do think it has a lot to do with the fact that all my friends watch ‘‘Modern Family,’’’ said Feldman, referring to the ABC television show featuring a gay couple. ‘‘Shows like that have an effect to neutralize a stigma if there was one.’’
Indeed, Democratic political leaders only recently came to support gay marriage as well. Vice President Joe Biden announced in June 2012 that he supported the rights of same-sex couples. Six months later, President Barack Obama endorsed it, and he was followed by former president Bill Clinton and former first lady and Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
Numerous Democratic senators joined in, as did Republican Senator Rob Portman of Ohio, whose son is gay, and Illinois Republican Senator Mark Kirk this year.
It is a swift march from the 2008 presidential campaign when former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee expressed his views on the subject by saying marriage should be between ‘‘Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve’’ -- to laughter in the audience.
Still, there are structural impediments to how far the movement will go, and how quickly. State constitutional amendments often require two-thirds votes in legislatures to overturn, an unlikely prospect.
The most recent effort to approve same-sex marriage, in Illinois, failed on May 31 as supporters in the Democratically-controlled legislature pulled the bill before a vote they said would not pass even with the backing of Obama, Governor Pat Quinn and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel.
‘‘It is a struggle to explain to my gay friends that although I love them and support them and will always be there for them that doesn’t mean I support all of their behavior,’’ said Lisa Lacayo, who also graduated from Vanderbilt in May and will be part of the Teach for America program inTexas.
Lacayo, who said her views are rooted in her Catholic religion, said states should decide the matter, and she would abide by a legislature’s decision either way.
In Tennessee, the legislature is moving to solidify opposition to same-sex marriage. It designated Aug. 31 as ‘‘ido4life Traditional Marriage Day,’’ based on a resolution that read in part: ‘‘Whereas, in Genesis 2:24, matrimony is delineated; it is expressed only between a man and a wife.’’
Earlier in the session, state Senator Stacey Campfield of Knoxville offered up legislation that opponents called the ‘‘Don’t Say Gay’’ bill because of provisions they said would prohibit teachers from talking about anything other than heterosexual relationships. The bill failed, though Campfield plans to bring it up again during the next session.
Campfield, in an e-mail response to questions, said he questioned the premise that attitudes on the issue had shifted.
‘‘When put on the actual ballot, homosexual marriage has seldom passed on its own and I think has only passed by ballot initiative in small-population, liberal states,’’ he wrote. ‘‘As for youth polling, young people often say and do things completely different when they actually grow up, get a real job, begin paying taxes and start trying to raise a family.’’
‘‘If we left all decisions up to youth polling,’’ he wrote, ‘‘‘beer pong’ would be an Olympic sport.’’Like much of the South, Tennessee is buffeted by cultural crosscurrents. The state Capitol, built before the first shots of the Civil War, rises above the city, its tower visible from several miles away. The Greek Revival Structure embodies the state’s history and traditions. Portraits of presidents such as Andrew Jackson and governors of both parties line the walls.

 

At the Information Desk, an enlarged $20 bill issued by the Confederacy sits alongside a brochure about the building. Upstairs, a bronze bust of Nathan Bedford Forrest, a Confederate lieutenant general who also played a role in founding the Ku Klux Klan, holds a place of honor among other Tennesseans.
Tennessee’s stance on gay marriage has had little impact on its economy. The state has outpaced most since the recession ended in 2009, with the fourth-fastest growth in employment in the three-year period from December 2009 to December 2012, according to Bloomberg Economic Evaluation of States data.
The Capitol sits above Nashville’s gleaming downtown, its job market robust relative to much of the nation thanks to health-care companies including HCA Holdings (HCA), Inc., and the country music industry, with 200 recording studios. It is home to Thomas Nelson, one of the world’s largest Bible publishers.
‘‘The Nashville metropolitan statistical area is already riding a wave of employment expansion,” a report from the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta said.
A new convention center, “The Music City Center,” opened in May.
“Tennessee is a conservative state, but not as conservative as the late-night TV shows would have you believe,” Geer said. Still, he said, Republicans should be concerned about how they are connecting with younger adults.
In 2012, Obama benefited in re-election from the overwhelming support of Hispanics and younger voters as well.
“Looking at the 2012 data, you look at the Latino vote, and I would be more worried about the youth vote,” Geer said. “The youth, a lot of them, want to be Republican because of small government, trust in free markets, and then they see this intolerance and they don’t like it.”
“There is an underlying component to America about equality,” Geer said. “Sometimes we get to positions of equality and in an ugly fashion, but we get there.” 
Bottom part by Michael Tackett in Washington atmtackett@bloomberg.net
top part by Adam Gonzalez, Publisher

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