Showing posts with label Marriage Equality. The Commitment Campaign. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Marriage Equality. The Commitment Campaign. Show all posts

July 20, 2013

Gay Marriage Not Seen by Opponents as Equal Rights but as a Commitment Issue

When respondents on a survey where given this statement: "When gays and lesbians are allowed to marry, 'society is stronger because more couples are taking responsibility for each other and making long-term commitments”. This was a statement about gay marriage and 74% agree. Yet when asked about Gay marriage as an equal rights issue, mostly they where turn off by it because they were thinking about marriage and gay sex, sex first.

Marriage is for sure an equal rights issue but when you think about the message you are going to supply to minds that have always heard how promiscuous we are and that the issue for us is sex and not straightening marriage by long term commitments which in by itself self makes society stronger because  when you have a lot of people caring for each other the results can be self evident.

We have already began talking about it which is what is changing the minds of the people that hear and think about this message. Commitment is the big part of it. There will always be divorces and separations not just because of mistakes we make choosing a mate but because our expectations about that mate which are never discuss before hand but even if discussed and council about what marriage is, people don't always grasp the idea. They think of people that are married. First their parents, which might have been a perfect union but may be not. Then it goes down from family to friends, neighbors and people we see wether in movies or walking down the street and we assume they are married.

There lies the pitfall for many. Marriage is not new but for us it is. We need to find out why marriage is for you. If it is because is something brand new and shiny and everybody who is allow to do it is doing it then you are setting yourself for a divorce.

At this point the divorce will affect you in more ways than one but financially will, for sure be in the mix. It will also affect those who don’t have a chance yet because their state doesn’t allow it. But this is the part of commitment that people are watching for. Is this a sexual game for us or are we really committing with another human being to be there together for each other for life? If you don’t like those terms you don’t have to have them. Just don’t get married. Is like we say to the anti gay marriage crowd, if you don’t like gay marriage don’t get one. Now is time for self seeking the truth of why.
It will be better on you on your partner and in society in general if a flawed marriage never happened.

Already we see the famous divorcees coming and going in the land of make believe Hollywood. The people find partners from their own clan use to what Hollywood is and then find out that Hollywood and marriages and kids don’t mix. Those that succeeded in their marriages even though they work in Hollywood have found a partner outside Hollywood and have extricated themselves and kids from there. Have seen it as a job. Some might say you can’t do that in a young growing career, you have to go where they send you.
The answer is simple you should have waited. Worse than a bad marriage is a marriage without divorce. But divorce takes a chunk of people’s life that could have been avoided. All Im saying is if you do it, do it for the right reasons and make sure that a life commitment is in front of anything else you might be thinking of marriage.

Adam Gonzalez

November 8, 2011

Commitment is what Gay Marriage is} We Should Call it "The Commitment Campaign"

By Aamer Madhani, USA TODAY

WASHINGTON – A group of high-profile Democrats and Republicans who back legalizing gay marriage are calling on advocates to shift the focus on the issue from an argument about equal rights to promoting the value of commitment.
  • "We're all searching for common ground" on this evolving issue, Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley said.
    By Patrick Semansky, AP
    "We're all searching for common ground" on this evolving issue, Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley said.
By Patrick Semansky, AP
"We're all searching for common ground" on this evolving issue, Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley said.

The "Commitment Campaign," which is spearheaded by the centrist Democrat group Third Way and will be publicly launched today, has won support from Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley, a Democrat; Rhode Island Gov.Lincoln Chafee, an independent and former Republican; former New Jersey governor Christine Todd Whitman, a Republican; and Ken Mehlman, former chairman of theRepublican National Committee.
Advocates have long made the case that legalizing marriage for gays and lesbians is a matter of equality, but those who frame the issue that way might be reinforcing a belief among many Americans in the middle on the issue that gays and lesbians want to marry for different reasons than straight couples, according to polling by Third Way and Grove Insight.
When asked why "couples like you" might want to marry, 58% said to "publicly acknowledge their love and commitment to each other." When asked why gays and lesbians may want to marry, the respondents split between "love and commitment" and "rights and benefits."
"In this fast-evolving issue, we're all searching for common ground," O'Malley told USA TODAY ahead of the campaign launch. "And the way to have a conversation with those who would be inclined not to support marriage equality is to search for those common values that we share."
Charles Moran, chairman of the California Log Cabin Republicans, said there has been a "fundamental flaw" in the way that the lesbian, gay and transgender community has framed the issue in the past and has led to 31 straight defeats in ballot initiatives across the country. "This is a real radical way of changing the approach in communicating why gay marriage equality is important," said Moran, who supports the commitment campaign.
The launch of the campaign comes as the Senate Judiciary Committee prepares this week to consider a repeal of the Defense of Marriage Act, and as several states — including Maryland, Minnesota and North Carolina— are likely to consider legislation or ballot initiatives on gay marriage in 2012.
Some gay-rights advocates, including the Human Rights Campaign, have started reframing their messaging. Last month, the group launched an Internet ad campaign in which prominent African-American leaders such as former NAACP leader Julian Bondnote that gay and lesbian couples "have the same values as everyone else — love, commitment and stable families." African Americans voted overwhelmingly against a 2008 California ballot initiative to legalize gay marriage.
Jonathan Cowan, president of Third Way, said the New York state Assembly's passage of gay marriage legislation this year marked a pivotal point and that the issue will be battled in the courts. Winning broad support will be crucial to winning the legal battle, Cowan said.
"There is no question when the Supreme Court makes a decision on an important social issue that one of the factors that they look at is where the country is," he said. "If we stick with a rights and benefits framework, we will ultimately not be able to win over enough of the middle of the country that we need to prevail."

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