Showing posts with label Church. Show all posts
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March 2, 2018

This Church Celebrates The AR-15 Killer Rifle as the "Rod" of God and Most of Them Own It

 Some people ask themselves why many religious people have this love for punishment and tools of death.This is the Unification church in Pennsylvania. Yes in the North East, not the South.
The AR-15 that Christian fellow is carrying in the church is not a prop and he is not the only one who brought his to church. They decided to bring their killer rifles to church to make a point. Freedom makes these people feel threatened.  Some of them also had crowns made of bullets. You got to give them credit for showing what others feel. Putin in Russia, just announced a new round of weapons of mass destruction and these people do not have a concern in the least. Not because they got their killer rifles but because they want the world to be destroyed before they die, so hey can see god come and give them eternal life and put things right again. Things might be put back together again but it might take what it took the last time. Billions of years and everything turns into radioactive dust first. Adam

 Hundreds of faithful at a Pennsylvania church on Wednesday carried AR-15-style rifles in adherence to their belief that a "rod of iron" mentioned in the Bible refers to the type of weapon that was used in last month's mass shooting in Parkland, Fla.
The armed ceremony at World Peace and Unification Sanctuary in Newfoundland, about 20 miles southeast of Scranton, featured gun-toting worshippers, some wearing crowns of bullets as they participated in communion and wedding ceremonies.
Attendants carefully placed a zip tie into the receiver magazine well of each weapon to assure that a clip could not be loaded.
Concern over Wednesday's gathering prompted a nearby elementary school to cancel classes for the day. It also sparked a small demonstration outside the church, with one protester telling The Associated Press that "it's scaring people in the community."
According to The Philadelphia Inquirer, "The ceremony's official name was the Cosmic True Parents of Heaven, Earth and Humanity Cheon Il Guk Book of Life Registration Blessing. It was part of the church's weeklong 'Festival of Grace,' which included a 'President Trump Thank You Dinner' on Saturday."
The Rev. Hyung Jin "Sean" Moon prayed for "a kingdom of peace police and peace militia where the citizens, through the right given to them by Almighty God to keep and bear arms, will be able to protect one another and protect human flourishing."
"We pray they would stand as kings and queens with their crown and rod of iron," he said.
Moon is the youngest son of the late Rev. Sun Myung Moon — the self-proclaimed messiah who founded the Unification Church in South Korea in 1954 and eventually spawned a worldwide movement regarded by detractors as a cult. The church is perhaps best known for its mass wedding ceremonies.
As the AP notes, "The younger Moon's congregation is a breakaway faction of the Unification Church, which had distanced itself from Wednesday's event."
The ceremony reportedly attracted followers from as far away as Japan, South Korea, and Europe.
Within the past year, Moon incorporated the new belief about the AR-15 into the church's teaching. It is based on Revelation 2:27, which states, "he shall rule them with a rod of iron." 
One follower, Jonathan Franco, was quoted by Scranton's WNEP TV as saying, "If you don't have a rod of iron then, unfortunately, you can come into a situation where your life can come to an end. Who else is there to blame if you yourself didn't take the responsibility to preserve your own life?"
Sreymom Ouk, 41, who attended the ceremony with her husband, Sort Ouk, and an AR-15, told the AP that she needed the weapon to defend her family against "sickos and evil psychopaths."
"People have the right to bear arms, and in God's kingdom, you have to protect that," she said, according to the news agency. "You have to protect against evil."
As the Inquirer notes, the Rev. Sean Moon's brother, Moon Kook-jin, also known as Justin Moon, is the founder and CEO of Kahr Arms, a firearms manufacturer headquartered in nearby Greeley.
Kahr specializes in making compact semiautomatic pistols. It was not clear from its website whether the company sells AR-15-style rifles, but the newspaper quoted one follower who said he bought one there.
"I actually purchased my weapon there yesterday because, although I have several rifles, I didn't have an AR-15," David Konn, who had driven from Florida earlier in the week, told the Inquirer.

November 5, 2017

In Texas 26 People Dead 25 Injured in The Worse US Church Shooting in History

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"Approximately 25 people" are dead and at least 20 others injured after a shooter opened fire inside the First Baptist Church in Sutherland Springs, Texas, the county sheriff told NBC. The shooter is dead, following a police chase, and the FBI is on the scene.
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott tweeted his condolences saying, "Our prayers are with all who were harmed by this evil act." President Trump, who is in Japan as part of a 12-day Asia trip, also tweeted, "May God be w/ the people of Sutherland Springs, Texas. The FBI & law enforcement are on the scene. I am monitoring the situation from Japan."
Sutherland Springs is a small town in South Texas, about 35 miles east of San Antonio. Parishioners present at the First Baptist Church's 11 a.m. service Sunday morning — when the shooter attacked — were likely all members of Sutherland Spring's small community of well under 1,000 people. The church's pastor told ABC that his 14-year-old daughter, a "very beautiful, special child," was among those killed.
Helicopters arrived on the scene shortly after the shooting occurred to transport victims to local hospitals. The local community center has been turned into a resource center for families of the victims to wait for information as authorities are still treating the church as an active crime scene.
This was the worst church shooting in U.S. history.

UPDATE 7:35pm Sunday
The shooter’s name Devin Patrick Kelley, 26, of New Braunfels, Texas and said the Air Force court martial occurred only three years ago. Although the motive was not yet clear, the gunman’s background includes religious school work, but he also liked pages devoted to atheism. The shooter, who is dead, left behind disturbing social media posts, including a Facebook page that showed off a rifle, calling it a “bad b*tch.” This latest is from internet reports not verified yet by adamfoxie*

September 6, 2017

You P* Smiling RevJoel Osteen, Be Warned! Your Jugular Would Be His Breakfast

Jacob Gardner, front right, preaches as he and Randall Valdez, left, Mark DeRouville, Matthew Martinez, Kevin Fessler, and Richard Trudeau waiting to be arraigned in Court

This is one of a few available cases surrounding the unchristian behavior of this pastor. With a permanently frozen smile, he went after 6 young guys who disagreed with his sermon on the bible and yelled at him with the corrections. It was not vandalism or young guys disrupting a service for the hell of it. They were following what Jesus did as written on the new testament.the correct verses.  Where these guys rude?  Probably; I don't know whether they tried in private to correct what this pastor was preaching from a book evangelicals know well. Still yelling the scriptures might have called for them to be escorted out and have the incident finished. Yes, they were escorted out but then Mr. Love and Permanent Smile (LPS) Joel had them arrested and with the pull, he has in a town in which he is pastor of a mega church, the authorities paid attention to him more than to the youngsters. This case should have not gone as far as it did. The Pastor had the church paying for court expenses but the youngsters did not have a church covering or so Pasto Joel thought.  They tried a variety of charges of which the defense was 'freedom of speech."
You know how the courts feel about any challenges to one of the main commandments of the Constitution.  I have the case as it happened below and the final disposition. With the Conduct of Pastor Joel Osteen on the hurricane, one looks at his past and see the same thing we saw what he did by not opening his church for the storm survivors until he had to.


 He showed in this incident that if you piss him he will come after you with lots of money and very little love or god involvement

It was religious speech - a warning that Joel Osteen was preaching falsehoods - that led to the arrest of six men who yelled out and shouted scriptures during a Sunday service last year at Lakewood Church, their lawyers said Tuesday.

The men were not committing crimes when they interrupted the service at the megachurch in the Greenway Plaza area of Houston, the lawyers said.

"The state is trying to make a crime out of a religious speech by these men," defense attorney Brad Loper said in opening statements Tuesday of the misdemeanor trial of four of the men. "They intended to warn people, whether you believe them or not, that Mr. Osteen was spreading false teachings."

The men, all of whom are members of a small church in the East Texas town of Wells, are charged with misdemeanor criminal trespassing and causing a disturbance in the June 28, 2015, incident.
Prosecutors said security video would show the men intentionally caused a security problem by scattering themselves among the 12,000 parishioners in Lakewood's massive arena.

"One by one they stood up around the sanctuary and began belligerently yelling at Joel Osteen," said Assistant District Attorney Chelsi Honeycutt. "Belligerently and violently."

It was their volume, wildly swinging arms and refusal to stop that led security officers and church ushers to escort them from the premises, she said.

Ronald Crowell, head of Lakewood's security, testified Tuesday that numerous disturbances broke out every few minutes during the service. Prosecutors showed video pinpointing when each member can be heard shouting over Osteen's sermon.

Osteen made light of the disturbances at the time, encouraging the congregation to applaud if they were happy to be there and joking that the protesters could wait until after the service to tell him they love him.

The church is one of the largest Protestant congregation in the country, with 50,000 people attending services through the week.

"Everyone's welcome until they're not," Honeycutt told jurors. "Until they pose a security threat."

The men have publicly admitted they "raised up their voices to God" to protest Osteen, whom they have called a "charlatan" and "imposter."

Four of the men facing misdemeanor charges began trial Tuesday after County Court-at-Law Judge Bill Harmon unexpectedly put them at the top of the docket. They began trial in jeans, tennis shoes or boots and rough-hewn, button-down-collar shirts.

Two of the accused men had permission to miss what was supposed to be a routine docket call and are out of state.

All of them are represented by Loper and attorney Jon Stephenson.

By framing the issue as religious speech, the defense lawyers are expected to argue that the men were escorted out of the church because they were criticizing Osteen.

The group has issued a subpoena for Osteen to testify, but lawyers for the pastor have filed a motion to keep him out of court. They argue in court records that Osteen was too far from the disruption to see it and that the subpoena is just another way to harass the pastor.

The judge said he would rule Wednesday on whether Osteen has to appear. The trial is expected to last two days.

The men on trial are Kevin Fessler, 27; Mark DeRouville, 26; Matthew Martinez, 28; and Randall Valdez, 29. Two other men, Jacob Gardner, 27, and Richard Trudeau, 32, will likely face trial later this week. A seventh man from the church was also part of the protest, according to Gardner and other members of their church, but he slipped out without being arrested. {Houston Chronicle}


Friday, June 24, 2016
HOUSTON (KTRK) -- Charges against two remaining members of the Church of Wells accused of disrupting a service at Lakewood Church last year have been dismissed.
Today, we learned Jacob Garner and Richard Trudeau, who had been charged with criminal trespass, were cleared in the case, which stemmed from outbursts during a service at Lakewood Church in June of last year.
Earlier this week, four other men accused in the case -- Kevin Fessler, Matthew Martinez, Randall Valdez and Mark DeRouville - had their trespassing charges dismissed. They were also found not guilty of disrupting a meeting or procession.
Men cleared of wrongdoing in Osteen church heckling case
Jurors returned a not guilty verdict for four men who were facing charges in the heckling case against Pastor Joel Osteen.

August 31, 2017

[3] Reasons Why So Many People Hate Joel Osteen and His Mega Church in Houston

Twitter is loathing Houston’s megawatt-smile, mega-pastor Joel Osteen. What gives? 
For Myself, the main reason(the are others) is that He is against Gay Marriage but for others:

Joel Osteen’s Houston megachurch transforms into shelter
Lakewood Church, a 606,000-square-foot megachurch in Houston where Joel Osteen preaches, is being used as a shelter from the flood. (Thomas Johnson/The Washington Post)
The question over whether Osteen’s 38,000-member Lakewood Church has sufficiently aided in the disaster relief effort in the wake of Hurricane Harvey has, once again, made America’s prince of the prosperity gospel into an object of social media contempt.
With his yachts and jets and endlessly-smiling mouth offering promises of “Your Best Life Now” (that’s the name of his best-selling book), Osteen was already a subject of contempt among Americans, in general.
But in the past few days, he has been lambasted as being, at best, sluggish in providing emergency aid to those suffering from the disaster and, at worst, a hypocrite who cares more about people’s wealth than welfare. In fairness, the city of Houston has more megachurches than any other metropolitan area in the country, with dozens of big-church celebrities to thrust into the spotlight at a time like this. So what is it about America’s grinning preacher that everyone hates so much? 
I’ve been studying the American prosperity gospel for more than a decade, and I have come to the stunning conclusion that Joel Osteen seems to be a pretty nice guy. He is the cheery advertisement for the 606,000-square-foot Lakewood Church and, with the gorgeous Victoria by his side, tours the country in packed-out arenas to bring “A Night of Hope” — a religion-lite, inspirational speech set to music. And, for those who don’t mind waiting a few minutes after the service, he will shake your hand and tolerate your comment about how his hair looks even better in real life. It does.
But there are three main reasons long after this controversy passes, Joel Osteen will still be the preacher America loves to hate — and perhaps for Christians more than others.
Number 1. Joel Osteen represents the Christian 1 percent. From aerial views of his jaw-dropping mansion to the cut of his navy suits, he always looks like a man with a good reason to be smiling. He is a wealthy man who unapologetically preaches that God has blessed him, with the added bonus that God can bless anyone else, too. 
The promise of the prosperity gospel is that it has found a formula that guarantees that God always blesses the righteous with health, wealth, and happiness. For that reason, churchgoers love to see their preachers thrive as living embodiments of their own message. But the inequality that makes Osteen an inspiration is also what makes him an uncomfortable representation of the deep chasms in the land of opportunity between the haves and the have-nots. When the floodwaters rise, no one wants to see him float by on his yacht, as evidenced by the Christian satire website the Babylon Bee’s shot Tuesday at Osteen: “Joel Osteen Sails Luxury Yacht Through Flooded Houston To Pass Out Copies Of ‘Your Best Life Now.’ ” 
 Number 2. There is a lingering controversy around prosperity megachurches and their charitable giving. When a church that places enormous theological weight on tithes and offerings is not a leader in charitable giving, the most obvious question is about who is the primary beneficiary of the prosperity gospel? The everyman or the man at the front?
Number 3. For many Christians, in particular, the prosperity gospel has an unpopular answer to the problem of evil in the world. Its central claim — “Everyone can be prosperous!”—contains its own conundrum. How do you explain the persistence of suffering? It might be easier to say to someone undergoing a divorce that there is something redemptive about the lessons they learned, but what about a child with cancer? 
This week, the prosperity gospel came face-to-face with its own theological limits. It was unable to answer the lingering questions around what theologians call “natural evil.” There is a natural curiosity about how someone like Osteen will react in the face of indiscriminate disaster. Is God separating the sheep from the goats? Will only the houses of the ungodly be flooded? The prosperity gospel has not every found a robust way to address tragedy when their own theology touts that “Everything Happens for a Reason.”  
The good news is that the prosperity gospel, as a movement, is still young. It still has time to be ready when the next natural disaster strikes and people want to be assured that their religious giants are offering more than their thoughts and prayers.

January 15, 2017

Anti Gay, Alleged Church Male Molester, Bishop Eddie Long Dies,63

 Eddie Long New Birth Missionary Mega Church

Bishop Eddie Long, the controversial (alleged young male sex molester) Georgia-based head of one of the nation’s largest mega churches, has died. He was 63.

Long died after a battle with an aggressive form of cancer, according to a statement by the New Birth Missionary Baptist Church.
At its peak New Birth Missionary Baptist Church had about 25,000 members going around the world preaching homophobia and change through prayer as they preached the gospel.

Long had a controversial past. In 2010, he and his church settled a lawsuit filed by four young men who accused him of pressuring them into sexual relationships while they were teenagers and members of his congregation. Long Settled and paid the young men to keep the case going to trial.

Long, who preached passionately against homosexuality for years, denied the allegations.
In 2011, Vanessa Long filed for divorce. Shortly afterward, Long told his followers he was taking some time off to work on his marriage.

“I do want you to know that this is, for me and my family, especially with me, one of the most difficult times and things I've had to face, and only because my strength, other than God, is in Miss Vanessa," he said at the time.

"And I want you to rest assured that I love her and she loves me. ... In all the things that I've ever had to deal with and being pastor, my rock has been to be able to come home to a virtuous woman who always had peace in my house... We’re going (to) work it out." he said.

In its statement the church called him "a family man and spiritual leader who was well respected and loved for his passion to unapologetically and courageously preach the gospel of Jesus Christ."
The couple later reconciled.

January 9, 2017

As He Grew Up Gay in Australia,The Catholic Church was a Heaven

This March, Australian Christians will be able to join a chorus of Catholics, Baptists and beyond asking forgiveness for centuries worth of anti-LGBTQI sins – among those sins, pushing the idea that "non-heterosexual orientations should be treated, healed or changed".
The landmark "sorry" is the effort of a new ecumenical group called Equal Voices, which, as reported by Buzzfeed, ultimately aims to present the apology to Parliament. The group says its mission is to ensure that the church is one "which acknowledges, respects and utilises the gifts of all, regardless of sex, sexuality or gender". Six months after our progressive pontiff told reporters that Catholics should say sorry to gay people, Australians of faith are listening. 
On one level, this is a surprise on the level of "somebody-moved-the-stone!". The church, so often an immovable wall in the fight for same-sex marriage and other rights, is apologising to us? This is, after all, the same coalition of religions that includes George Pell, the anti-Safe Schools Salvos and the Australian Christian Lobby.

And yet the apology comes as no surprise to me. The Christians in my life – those in the pews who don't make, nor seek, headlines – have been some of the most supportive people I've known. Of course they want to say sorry: it's the Christian thing to do.

My parents sent my brothers and me to Catholic schools as part of a common Australian middle-class compromise. They didn't want us going to the local public school, but couldn't afford private school, so they sent us to an institution named for a girl who was burned at the stake two millennia ago. There, we would wear uniforms we didn't like and say prayers we didn't believe in, but we would also be able to learn our times tables in a disciplined environment.

I did well there. I got straight As, was elected captain of both primary and high school, completed my sacraments and often led prayers at assembly and over the PA system. The family never went to church on weekends, but from Monday to Friday I was an evangelistic little Tracy Flick, biro in hand and halo on head.

I was also very gay. I didn't realise this at the time – I was quite late to my own coming-out party – but I already ticked all of the cliche boxes: terrible at footy, excellent at knowing the lyrics to Les Mis songs; Friday nights at an arthouse cinema, Sunday mornings at drama class. And the voice? Julian Clary could have given a more convincing straight-man reading of the Our Father. If my teachers had eyes and ears, they knew I was different. And these same teachers – not members of the clergy, but many of them laypeople of deep faith – were profoundly nurturing of that difference.

One of my earliest memories of school is from year two, in rehearsals for a class show for the weekly assembly. The part called for me to address the crowd, and I mumbled the line quietly in rehearsal, eyes fixed on my polished black Clarks. Miss White was having none of it. She pulled me aside to ask what was wrong. When I told her that I hated my voice, she told me firmly it was a gift not to sound like anyone else. And then she gave me a piece of advice I still use when speaking publicly: "Find a clock on the back wall, and stare at it." 

My school life was peppered with moments like this. Teachers who encouraged me into extracurricular activities for which my differences were an advantage.

And I was always protected. I was in the public speaking team in high school, and in one of my first years there, was asked to deliver a speech to the school. It was six minutes of my not-yet-broken voice from the lectern and jeers from the crowd. By the end, I was pretty shaken up. No teacher ever spoke to me about the incident, as Miss White had done years before, but I later found out someone had spoken to the rest of the year group. I am not sure what was said, but I was never jeered again. ln year 12, when I competed in a national public speaking competition, a chunk of the guys from my year showed up to cheer me on raucously.

Now I am an atheist when things are going well in my life, an agnostic when they aren't, and temporarily Catholic when I have to get up for the Eucharist at a wedding. But I've always liked core Christian values, particularly the simple "golden rule" I was taught back in kindy: "Treat others the way you like to be treated."

I know it's not everyone's story – and I know others whose time at religious schools was far less rosy – but I was able to grow up different and safe and proud because the people around me also subscribed to that idea.

I don't see much of that sentiment when I scan the statements of church leadership when it comes to LGBTQI issues today. But the Equal Voices apology is a reminder of the kinds of Christians who helped shape me growing up. These people put into quiet practice so much of what is beautiful about the religion, and did very little preaching as they went.

As some of them get ready to say sorry this March, I’d like to take a moment to say thank you.

Joel Meares is a Fairfax Media columnist

November 3, 2016

Black Church In Mississippi Burnt in the Name of Trump

A black church in Greenville, Mississippi, was set on fire on Tuesday night. Fire fighters arrived to find Hopewell Missionary Baptist Church “heavily engulfed in flames,” Mayor Errick Simmons said in an interview;  the fire took nearly an hour to contain. No one was in the church at the time, and no one was injured. On the side of the church, beneath the blackened windows and roof, the words “Vote Trump” have been spray painted.

The fire is being investigated as a hate crime, Simmons said. Federal authorities, including the FBI and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms and Explosives, are helping local authorities with the investigation, which is part of the standard procedure for church fires. “We’re very cautious in this climate, in this day and time, to make sure we’re very deliberate in investigating matters like this,” Simmons said. This fire was “a direct assault on people’s right to free worship,” he said, and later added during a press conference, “I see this as an attack on the black church and the black community.”
In September, Simmons said, city officials found the word “nigger” painted on a boat front down by Greenville’s levee on the Mississippi River. The 34,000-person city is predominantly black, and while there is “a concerted, intentional effort for racial reconciliation among the races” in Greenville, he said, there have also been “cowardly acts of folks doing something.” In the days leading up to the election, the city will be placing additional patrols around all places of worship.

By and large, Simmons said, he expects the people of Greenville and the surrounding county of Washington will support Hillary Clinton.

Arson is notoriously difficult to prove. Last summer, when a spate of fires took place at black churches in South Carolina, Tennessee, Florida, and elsewhere, investigators looked into whether they were religiously or racially motivated crimes—if the fires were intentionally set at all. Unless someone leaves “you a message in some way that makes it very obvious,” a staffer for the National Fire Protection Association told me at the time, it’s hard to know whether or not a burning was motivated by hate.

In this case, though, someone left a calling card about politics. It’s not yet clear who set the fire, if anyone set it; whether the person who set the fire is the same person who wrote the graffiti; or why, if the fire was intentional, Hopewell M.B. Church was the target. One thing is clear, though: At some point, someone decided to attach the name of Trump to a burned black church.

This act comes with heavy symbolism in the United States. Black churches have long been burned in acts of intimidation and hatred; in the Jim Crow South, members of hate groups would leave flaming crosses on churchyard lawns. The bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham, Alabama, came at a time of extreme racial division in the United States; it was that crime, which killed four young black girls, that led to the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. “The black church has always been a symbol of the community,” Simmons said during a press conference. When he met congregants in Hopewell M.B. Church on Tuesday night, “I talked to folks who were fearful. I talked to folks who were  intimidated. And quite frankly, [they] were saddened and crying,” he said. “That should not happen in 2016. It happened in the ’50s. It happened in the ’60s. But it should not happen in 2016.”

Less than a week away from Election Day, America is having to contend with violence. Trump supporters, including some white nationalists, are allegedly planning to monitor polls, especially in places with large populations of black voters, and local political parties have already reported incidents of harassment. This month, a local Republican political office in Hillsborough, North Carolina, was firebombed, with the message “Nazi Republicans leave town or else” spray painted on a building nearby.

This is a tense time in American politics. The burning of Hopewell M.B. Church is a sign of how bad things have gotten, and what may be still to come. “What we have to do is come together,” Simmons said. “The only thing that conquers hate is love.”

October 19, 2016

Church Reorientation Prog Could Not Change Me,Ultimately Throwing Me Out

 I began attending Watermark Community Church around five years ago, after a girl I was dating invited me to a young adults ministry. The pastor on stage was open and authentic about his life and "struggles with sin." This instilled a sense of comfort within me because of all of the things I was hiding about myself,
I began attending weekly services and volunteering as much as I could. I attended training sessions and read through my Bible.

About six months in, I met a man who has become a dear friend. He shared with me that he was gay and trying to change his orientation to heterosexuality, and he encouraged me to open up to several others. I connected with programs designed to help gay church members, spent time with the gay success stories at Watermark, and read books about how to change my orientation.

It soon became very obvious that I would not be able to change my attraction to other men. I came to realize that, according to Watermark, God was expecting me to be single for the rest of my life, and I became comfortable with that idea. I was so sure of myself that when I moved in with one of my close guy friends, we shared a bunk bed. I felt that I was not alone even though I was single; I was happy to have a tight church group around me. I began sharing my story at church with others. (Start listening at 43:38).

Then, what seemed like all at once, more than half of my group started dating and quickly got married, my bunkmate included. I realized what it meant to face the prospect of being alone for the rest of my life. I couldn't expect my friends to avoid falling in love on the account of me.
Naturally, I rebelled a bit. I joined a gay volleyball league, met other gay people and even began to date a bit. These were not horrible, disgusting people, as I had been led to believe. These were some of the most caring and loving people I'd ever met, and finally, I was not alone. I discovered that many of my new friend, like me, had been wounded by the church.

Back at Watermark, my new community group urged me to quit hanging out with the gay volleyball crowd and urged me to attend Watermark's 12-step program to overcome homosexuality, or "struggles," as they put it. So I did.

Once again, I felt hopeful that God would come in and save the day and remove my "struggles." Then, I began to hate myself. I wanted so badly to change and yet, nothing came. I never felt so alone, sad and angry with God. Why wouldn’t he help me?

For my own safety, I quit the program halfway through. I started dating a guy shortly after. I experienced so many feelings that I had only heard about from straight friends. I remember waiting by the phone for him to text and looking forward to hearing how his day went. Even the most boring aspects of our relationship were exciting, and I realized these are the feelings they’d been talking about.

About six months into our relationship, my small group pushed hard for me to break up with him. I tried to convince myself I had other reasons to end the relationship; soon, I made these demands a reality. I became physically ill at the decision I made. I couldn't sleep, think, or do anything without crying. We decided to get back together a week later; I never should have done what I did and I knew it in my heart.

The group brought in church leadership due to my "rebellion." Nine of them sat in a half circle across the room from me. They interrupted me, talked down to me, and accused me of not giving effort. And they removed me out from official church membership.
After getting kicked out, I was picked up by a couple of gay friends that I met at Watermark who'd also left or been pushed out the door. We are now a growing group of people connected to the Gay Christian Network.

There are so many gay people who have been deeply hurt by the church. It is not uncommon to hear of suicide attempts from people who went through these similar experiences. We are people, we have feelings, desires, and morals just like everyone else. We desire to be loved just like everyone else. We deserve to be loved just like everyone else.

Watermark revoked my membership based on their reading of Matthew 18:15-18, where Jesus lays out a process for handling sin within a group. This passage begins: "If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault."
But translations of this passage vary. Some say say: "If your brother sins" and some say, "if your brother sins against you."
One of these gives you permission to hold anyone accountable to any sin. The other is talking about reconciliation. So, which one is correct? We don’t really know.
Watermark elders sent Jason Thomas a letter revoking his official membership with the church.
Later in the chapter, verse 21 provides some color: "Then Peter came up and said to him, "Lord, how often will my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? As many as seven times?” 

Jason Thomas , Contributor[Twitter: @Jason1TM]

September 3, 2016

NYT Leaked Trump’s Prepared Answers for Black Church Interview



Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, who lags far behind Hillary Clinton in African American support, will have some scripted answers to rely on for an interview he’s taping with a black pastor Saturday in his first public appearance before a majority black audience in Detroit.
The New York Times obtained a leaked 8-page script prepared by his campaign that has answers to the 12 questions Bishop Wayne T. Jackson will ask Trump when the candidate pays a visit to Detroit’s Great Faith Ministries International. Trump will sit down for a closed-door session with the pastor, and the interview is expected to air several days later on the Impact Network, Jackson’s cable television channel on the Christian faith. 
The interview questions, the Times reported, range from Trump’s relationship with God to views among African American voters that the Republican party can be racist. 
The prepared responses are a departure from Trump’s usual diatribes on rival Hillary Clinton’s “bigotry” and negative impacts on black communities. 
Instead, Trump is expected to offer up his own optimistic vision for race relations under his administration.  “If we are to make America great again, we must reduce, rather than highlight, issues of race in this country,” Trump is expected to say. “I want to make race disappear as a factor in government and governance.”
To another question posed by Bishop Jackson on whether Trump’s campaign is racist, the candidate is advised not to repeat the word. 
“The proof, as they say, will be in the pudding,” the script says. “Coming into a community is meaningless unless we offer an alternative to the horrible progressive agenda that has perpetuated a permanent underclass in America.” 
And in addressing undecided black voters, the Times noted the script cleaves close to Trump’s usual rhetoric: “If you want a strong partner in this journey, you will vote for me. I will never let you down...By the way, my support is now up to 8 percent and climbing.”
Trump, who has also struggled with answering questions about his faith, is also getting coached on his views about God. 
When the candidate is asked “Are you a Christian and do you believe the Bible is an inspired word of God?” the script offers this response from Trump: “As I went through my life, things got busy with business, but my family kept me grounded to the truth and the word of God...I treasure my relationship with my family, and through them, I have a strong faith enriched by an ever-wonderful God.”
While in Detroit, Trump will attend a two-hour church service and is also expected to address the Great Faith Ministries congregation for a few minutes. According to the Times, he will also spend about 30 minutes mingling with church members.


Pastor of Church Trump Will Visit Today is Being Called a Judas

The pastor who will interview Donald Trump at a black Detroit church on Saturday is responding to a deluge of criticism from people unhappy about the GOP presidential nominee's visit.

In a series of interviews and social media posts over the past week, Bishop Wayne T. Jackson has defended his decision to invite Trump to his church and to be interviewed on Jackson’s television channel, Impact Network.

"This interview is not an endorsement,” Jackson wrote on Facebook this week. "This is engagement. We have given Hillary Clinton the same opportunity as Donald Trump and she has not yet responded. This is not to put one up above the other but you gotta understand that we are in a race, and there’s two people in the race. This is to inform our community of what he will do if elected."

It seems many of Jackson’s followers are not convinced. On Friday, his social media team warned on Facebook that it would be removing comments that resort to name-calling or use foul language.

But plenty of comments from unhappy users can still be seen on the page.

On Thursday, The New York Times reported that aides at the Republican National Committee and in Trump’s campaign had written an eight-page script detailing how the businessman should respond to a dozen questions that Jackson had submitted in advance.

“With all respect I ask you to please refuse to participate in the Trump ‘interview’ unless you are allowed to ask some unscripted questions,” read one comment from a man named Michael Bradley. “Otherwise I would see it as a sham, nothing more than a campaign advertisement and not an interview in any way.”

“That's incredible that you would ask everybody on here to be respectful and civil when you are interviewing someone who never display that,” Kerry Hill said in response to the warning that asked users to refrain from name-calling.

Other inflammatory comments call Jackson “a spawn of the devil,” accuse him of being paid off by Trump and label the event propaganda.

Jackson himself has acknowledged that the candidate tends to evoke anger among black voters — a recent Public Policy Polling survey showed Trump had zero percent support among African Americans.

“There’s a lot of emotions going on right now — people are upset that he’s coming to Detroit,” Jackson told The Detroit News this week. “But if we don’t sit down to talk to him, we’ll never know what his policies are.”

Still, Jackson maintains that by interviewing Trump on his Impact Network, he is helping to inform his viewers. He also says that the candidate has a right to make his case to black voters.

“We’re not here to say we agree,” the bishop wrote in another Facebook post. “We’re here to listen. A person who committed murder, killed a child, whatever it may be, we still give them a right in our nation to be heard. We need to hear both sides.”

“My phone has been burning up,” Jackson told the Detroit Free Press. “And the things people are asking: ‘Is Donald Trump paying me off?’ They haven’t paid me off. You haven’t looked at me and seen a man who’s needed things, I’ve always been blessed. It’s not about being a Judas to my people.”

Trump's visit to Jackson’s church, Great Faith Ministries, was first announced Aug. 28 in a statement by Pastor Mark Burns, a Trump surrogate who a day later set off a firestorm by tweeting a cartoon of Democrat Hillary Clinton in blackface. Burns has his own show on the Impact Network.

Jackson had said in interviews this week that he planned to ask Trump if there’s any truth to the accusations of racism that have plagued his campaign for more than a year. The leaked script shows that Jackson will also ask how Trump can change black voters’ mistrust of the GOP, given that Republican candidates rarely appear in black communities.

“The proof, as they say, will be in the pudding,” reads Trump’s scripted answer. “Coming into a community is meaningless unless we can offer an alternative to the horrible progressive agenda that has perpetuated a permanent underclass in America.”
The Clinton campaign slammed Trump for the prepared script, saying that the fact that his team feels the need to provide him with a script shows that he is unfamiliar with the issues important to black voters and uncomfortable discussing them.

“Donald Trump's latest gimmick to act as if he cares about the black community is downright shameful, insulting and cowardly,” Clinton aide Marlon Marshall said in a statement.

“After 14 months of neglecting us, Donald Trump is once again dodging substantive conversations and ducking questions about the issues that impact our community.

Harper Neidig

August 29, 2016

ISIS 18 Yr Old Guy Has a Bomb Malfunction During Church Attack

Isis bomber attacks Catholic priest with axe during Sunday Mass
The suspect was taken in for questioning (Picture: EPA)

An Isis suicide bomber attacked a Catholic priest with an axe during Sunday Mass – but failed to set off an explosive device.
The priest, Albert Pandiangan, was injured after he was stabbed in the arm in a church in Medan on the island of Sumatra, Indonesia, police said.
However, the 18-year-old attacker was restrained by brave churchgoers who rushed to the priest’s aid.
Pictures from inside the church show a young man covered in blood after the incident.
Local chief detective Nur Fallah said: ‘Somebody tried to kill the priest by pretending to attend the church service and at that time tried to explode something, like a firecracker, but the firecracker didn’t explode, it only fumed.’
Indonesian antibomb squad carry an explosive from the Santo Yosef chuch after a man tried to attack a priest in Medan on August 28, 2016.   A knife-wielding attacker in Indonesia stabbed a Catholic priest and tried to set off an explosive device at a church on, police said, the latest in a string of attacks on religious minorities in the mainly Muslim country. / AFP PHOTO / HAKIM RANGKUTIHAKIM RANGKUTI/AFP/Getty Images
The incident happened during Mass in a packed church (Picture: Getty)
epa05512597 Indonesian mobile brigade policemen stand guard after an attempted suicide bombing by an unidentified man at St. Yoseph Catholic Church in Medan, Indonesia, 28 August 2016. An unidentified man attempted a suicide bombing with a small bomb and only injured himself, with no other casualties reported.  EPA/STR
Armed soldiers stood guard after the attack (Picture: EPA)

The drama unfolded when the teenager left a bench, ran towards the priest and allegedly attempted to detonate a bomb in his backpack, national police spokesman Maj. Gen. Boy Rafli Amar said.
Fallah described it as a ‘homemade explosive device’.
He then attacked Mr Pandiangan, 60, who was taken to hospital with slight injuries.
Eyewitness Markus Harianto Manullan said: ‘He sat in the same row as I did. I saw him fiddling with something in his jacket, and then I heard a small explosion and he immediately ran to the podium.’
Police have interrogated the teenager. 

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