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Gen Norman Schwarzkopf, Dead at 78 } Kids Die for Nothing at Wars









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It seems to me like yesterday. I brought a
 small tv from home to put in my office and
 keep up with the news of the war. I even 
took days off at the same time I had the big
 guys coming from NJ to see if they will find something not 100% properly
 displayed to blame the management because we were going though a recession and we 
were selling Diamonds... so sales were down. This might not make sense but I found the war more important than my job. May be it was my  cockiness because I’ve done well, 
in my mind at least had a good reputation for pulling miracles out of my pocket.
I had never watched a war and this one I wanted to see since it was being
 televised live for the first time in history... I wanted to see how our boys got 
killed and what was there that
 made our government send them there.  General Schwarzkopf was the 
reluctant soldier. He was old enough to know that young kids die for nothing 
in wars. It’s something to meditate about that the General’s commander in
 chief is dying and I been told in the next 48 hrs he’ll probably be gone and
 the funeral is already prepared, even though these things are made way 
ahead of time, but his is final. The General that helped win the war for us 
Vs. a with a big army who did not know how to fight a modern country 
and they were going to die among our kids because________________
you need to fill that in because I don’t know. Im not being funny about
this. I know the reasons given. But being quarter backing the day after
I’m reluctant to find a good reason for having so many dead people. 
I know it was over oil, but Im also being told that in a few years we will exporting
gas and oil is not going to be the major import to keep our industries
and cars running.,
(This is Adam Gonzalez {on a working Vacation} for adamfoxie*)
 Retired Gen. H. Norman Schwarzkopf, who topped an illustrious military
 career by commanding the U.S.-led international coalition that drove 
Sadssein's forces out of Kuwait in 1991 but kept a low public profile in
 controversies over the second Gulf War against Iraq, died Thursday. 
He was 78.
A sister of Schwarzkopf, Ruth Barenbaum of Middlebury, Vt., said that he 
died in Tampa, Fla., from complications from pneumonia. "We're still in a
 state of shock," she said by phone. "This was a surprise to us all."
A much-decorated combat soldier in Vietnam, Schwarzkopf was known
 popularly as "Stormin' Norman" for a notoriously explosive temper.
He served in his last military assignment in Tampa as commander
-in-chief of U.S. Central Command, the headquarters responsible for U.S.
 military and security concerns in nearly 20 countries from the eastern 
Mediterranean and Africa to Pakistan.
Schwarzkopf became "CINC-Centcom" in 1988 and when Saddam Hussein
 invaded Kuwait three years later to punish it for allegedly stealing Iraqi oil 
reserves, he commanded Operation Desert Storm, the coalition of some 
30 countries organized by President George H.W. Bush that succeeded
 in driving the Iraqis out.
"Gen. Norm Schwarzkopf, to me, epitomized the 'duty, service, country’
 creed that has defended our freedom and seen this great nation through
 our most trying international crises," Bush said in a statement. "More than 
that, he was a good and decent man — and a dear friend."
At the peak of his postwar national celebrity, Schwarzkopf — a self-
proclaimed political independent — rejected suggestions that he run for
 office, and remained far more private than other generals, although he did 
serve briefly as a military commentator for NBC.
While focused primarily in his later years on charitable enterprises, he
 campaigned for President George W. Bush in 2000 but was ambivalent
 about the 2003 invasion of Iraq, saying he doubted victory would be as 
easy as the White House and Pentagon predicted. In early 2003 he told
 the Washington Post the outcome was an unknown:
"What is postwar Iraq going to look like, with the Kurds and the Sunnis
 and the Shiites? That's a huge question, to my mind. It really should be
 part of the overall campaign plan," he said.
Initially Schwarzkopf had endorsed the invasion, saying he was convinced 
that former Secretary of State Colin Powell had given the United Nations
 powerful evidence of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. After that proved
 false, he said decisions to go to war should depend on what U.N. weapons
 inspectors found.
He seldom spoke up during the conflict, but in late 2004, he sharply criticized 
then-Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and the Pentagon for mistakes 
that included inadequate training for Army reservists sent to Iraq and for
 erroneous judgments about Iraq.
"In the final analysis I think we are behind schedule. … I don't think we counted 
on it turning into jihad (holy war)," he said in an NBC interview.
Schwarzkopf was born Aug. 24, 1934, in Trenton, N.J., where his father, 
Col. H. Norman Schwarzkopf Jr., founder and commander of the New Jersey
 State Police, was then leading the investigation of the Lindbergh kidnap
 case, which ended with the arrest and 1936 execution of German-born 
carpenter Richard Hauptmann for stealing and murdering the famed 
aviator's infant son.
The elder Schwarzkopf was named Herbert, but when the son was asked 
what his "H'' stood for, he would reply, "H." Although reputed to be short-
tempered with aides and subordinates, he was a friendly, talkative and
 even jovial figure who didn't like "Stormin' Norman" and preferred to be 
known as "the Bear," a sobriquet given him by troops.
He also was outspoken at times, including when he described Gen.
 William Westmoreland, the U.S. commander in Vietnam, as "a horse’s 
ass" in an Associated Press interview.
As a teenager Norman accompanied his father to Iran, where the elder 
Schwarzkopf trained the country's national police force and was an
 adviser to Reza Pahlavi, the young Shah of Iran.
Young Norman studied there and in Switzerland, Germany and Italy, then
 followed in his father's footsteps to West Point, graduating in 1956 with an 
engineering degree. After stints in the U.S. and abroad, he earned a master’s
 degree in engineering at the University of Southern California and later taught
 missile engineering at West Point.
In 1966 he volunteered for Vietnam and served two tours, first as a U.S. 
adviser to South Vietnamese paratroops and later as a battalion commander
 in the U.S. Army's Americal Division. He earned three Silver Stars for valor
 — including one for saving troops from a minefield — plus a Bronze Star, 
a Purple Heart and three Distinguished Service Medals.
While many career officers left military service embittered by Vietnam, 
Schwarzkopf was among those who opted to stay and help rebuild the 
tattered Army into a potent, modernized all-volunteer force.
After Saddam invaded Kuwait in August 1990, Schwarzkopf played a key
 diplomatic role by helping to persuade Saudi Arabia's King Fahd to allow 
U.S. and other foreign troops to deploy on Saudi territory as a staging area 
for the war to come.
On Jan. 17, 1991, a five-month buildup called Desert Shield became Operation
 Desert Storm as allied aircraft attacked Iraqi bases and Baghdad government
 facilities. The six-week aerial campaign climaxed with a massive ground 
offensive on Feb. 24-28, routing the Iraqis from Kuwait in 100 hours before 
U.S. officials called a halt.
Schwarzkopf said afterward he agreed with Bush's decision to stop the war 
rather than drive to Baghdad to capture Saddam, as his mission had been 
only to oust the Iraqis from Kuwait.
But in a desert tent meeting with vanquished Iraqi generals, he allowed a key concession on Iraq's use of helicopters, which later backfired by enabling 
Saddam to crack down more easily on rebellious Shiites and Kurds.
While he later avoided the public second-guessing by academics and think 
tank experts over the ambiguous outcome of Gulf War I and its impact on 
Gulf War II, he told The Washington Post in 2003, "You can't help but… 
with 20/20 hindsight, go back and say, 'Look, had we done something 
different, we probably wouldn't be facing what we are facing today.'"
After retiring from the Army in 1992, Schwarzkopf wrote a best-selling 
autobiography, "It Doesn't Take A Hero." Of his Gulf war role, he said,
 "I like to say I'm not a hero. I was lucky enough to lead a very successful war
." He was knighted by Queen Elizabeth II and honored with decorations
 from France, Britain, Belgium, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates,
 Qatar and Bahrain.
Schwarzkopf was a national spokesman for prostate cancer awareness and for Recovery of the Grizzly Bear, served on the Nature Conservancy board of 
governors and was active in various charities for chronically ill children.
"I may have made my reputation as a general in the Army and I'm very 
proud of that," he once told the AP. "But I've always felt that I was more 
than one-dimensional. I'd like to think I'm a caring human being. … It's nice 
to feel that you have a purpose."
Schwarzkopf and his wife, Brenda, had three children: Cynthia, Jessica 
and Christian.
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Pyle reported from New York. Associated Press writer Jay Lindsay in Boston 

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