Biden Blocks Poland From Sending 2- F16 to Ukraine, Has Biden Become a Scholz?





 
WARSAW, Poland (AP) — The Pentagon on Tuesday rejected Poland’s offer to give the United States its MiG-29 fighter jets for use by Ukraine, in a rare public display of disharmony by NATO allies seeking to boost Ukrainian fighters while avoiding getting caught up in a wider war with Russia.

Pentagon spokesman John Kirby said Poland’s proposal earlier Tuesday to deliver the jets to the US Ramstein Air Base in Germany raised the concerning prospect of jets departing from a US and NATO base to fly into airspace contested with Russia in the Ukraine war.

“We will continue to consult with Poland and our other NATO allies about this issue and the difficult logistical challenges it presents, but we do not believe Poland’s proposal is a tenable one,” Kirby said in a statement. 

“It is simply not clear to us that there is a substantive rationale for it,” he said.

Any such decision would be a morale booster for Ukraine as Russian attacks on its cities deepen the humanitarian catastrophe. But it also raises the risks of a wider war.

 
One senior US diplomat said Poland’s announcement came as a surprise.

“To my knowledge, it wasn’t pre-consulted with us that they plan to get these planes to us,” said US Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland, who told lawmakers she learned of the proposal as she was driving to testify about the Ukraine crisis before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

Ukraine has been pleading for more warplanes and Washington has been looking at a proposal under which Poland would supply Ukraine with the MiG-29s and in turn receive American F-16s to make up for their loss. Ukrainian pilots are trained to fly the Soviet-era fighter jets. 

The Polish Foreign Ministry announced the plan in a statement, which said the jets would be delivered to Ramstein free of charge.

“At the same time, Poland requests the United States to provide us with used aircraft with corresponding operational capabilities,” it said.

The Polish government also appealed to other owners of MIG-29 jets to follow suit.

Former Soviet-bloc NATO members Bulgaria and Slovakia also still have Soviet-made fighter jets in their air forces.


In this photo taken Friday, Oct. 20, 2017, a Serbian Army MiG-29 jet fighter received from Russia stands on the tarmac at Batajnica, military airport near Belgrade, Serbia. (AP/Darko Vojinovic)
Poland’s decision to publicly float its plan came the day before Vice President Kamala Harris was scheduled to depart for Warsaw for talks with Polish officials. The disconnect is likely to cast an awkward layer to the talks, which were expected to focus largely on US efforts to help Poland and other eastern European nations that have taken in some 2 million refugees since the war started less than two weeks ago.

The handover of Poland’s 28 Soviet-made MiG-29s would signal Western resolve to do more to deter Russia. Militarily, it would be unlikely to be a game-changer. The number of aircraft is relatively small. The MiG-29s also is inferior to more sophisticated Russian aircraft and could be easy prey for Russian pilots and missiles. 

Russia has warned that supporting Ukraine’s air force would be seen in Moscow as participating in the conflict and opening up suppliers to possible retaliation.

It would also weaken Poland’s own air force at a time of heightened danger in Eastern Europe.

A transfer of the MiGs to Ukraine is fraught with complications as neither NATO nor the European Union wants to be seen as directly involved in the transaction, which will significantly raise already extreme tensions with Russia. The US has no plan to directly transfer the planes to Ukraine.


An Indian Air Force (IAF) MIG 29 releases bombs during an air exercise named ‘Vayu Shakti-2019’, or air power, at Pokhran, in the western Indian state of Rajasthan, Saturday, Feb. 16, 2019. (AP/Manish Swarup)

In order to maintain the pretense that NATO and the EU are not direct participants in the Ukraine conflict, US and Polish officials have been considering a variety of options. One begins with the “donation” of Poland’s MiGs to the United States, as Poland announced on Tuesday.

Under one scenario that has been floated, Poland would deliver the fighter jets to the US base in Germany, where they would be repainted and flown to a non-NATO, non-European Union country. Ukrainian pilots would then come to fly them to Ukraine, under that proposal.

No country has been publicly identified as a transit point, but Kosovo, a non-aligned country that is very friendly with the United States, has been mentioned as one of several nations that might be willing to serve as a middleman. 

A Ukrainian MIG-29 fighter jet is parked at the Vasilkov air base outside Kiev, Ukraine, Wednesday, Nov. 23, 2016. (AP/Efrem Lukatsky)
Poland had been asking for the US to provide it with F-16 fighter jets to replace the MiGs.

F-16 production is backlogged, however, and the next recipient in line for new deliveries is Taiwan, which is facing renewed threats from China and has strong support from both parties in Congress. 

In its statement, the Polish government specifically asked for “used” planes, a distinction that would allow the Biden administration to bypass congressional opposition to making Taiwan wait to receive its F-16s.

Earlier Tuesday, British Defense Secretary Ben Wallace said his country would stand by Poland if it handed over the jets, noting that it could face the “direct consequence” of its decision.

“And so we would protect Poland, we’ll help them with anything that they need,” Wallace said on Sky News.


NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, second right, and Polish President Andrzej Duda address the media at Lask air base in Poland, March 1, 2022. (AP Photo/Czarek Sokolowski)
Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said any decision about delivering offensive weapons must be made unanimously by NATO members.

“This is why we are able to give all of our fleet of jet fighters to Ramstein, but we are not ready to make any moves on our own because … we are not a party to this war,” he said.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell said Tuesday that he believed the aid that Congress hopes to approve later this week for Ukraine will include loan guarantees to help NATO allies replenish their air forces after giving MiGs to Ukraine.


What do you think Putin thinks about all this? Do you think he is going to unleash his nukes and get destroyed in doing? Is he going to send more kids to die? 

No, and No. Putin already imagines that eventually, Ukraine will get the jets the question is how many extra will die before they come and will they go? Putin is not too bright but he is not stupid and he knows the jets will come but every day the decision is delayed more Ukrainians will die and he will have more time which is what he needs. He has nothing extra that he has not done except chemical weapons.

This is the time (I have been a Biden backer) I wish we did not have a cold war thinking Old guy in the white house. He is thinking like an old man. If you had been given driving lessons by a 30 yr old opposite an 80 you will know what you mean. By the way, The 30 yr old instructions will finish earlier without taking extra risks but obeying all the rules and laws of the road. In this one, I think he will leave his wife to make the decision.

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